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If they were shutting down their service every time police requests logs then their servers wouldn't have time to even boot properly. In their "clarification" t
by yaris 5y ago
If they were shutting down their service every time police requests logs then their servers wouldn't have time to even boot properly. In their "clarification" they claim they received 700 orders in 2020. It is ~2 orders/day.
- ezoe 5y agoI really don't know the situation but it sounds like for these 700 orders in 2020, they can legally challenge the validity of order in the court. But this one particular order, their excuse sounds like it comes from other channel, something akin to the order of Roman dictator so they have no veto power. Sabotaging and seek political asylum to Non-EU countries is the best action they could take in order to keep their face, and resist the dictator.
- yaris 5y agoSo you suggest them to drop their business (which took years to build), abandon their families and run because their local court (or police) issued an order, one of several hundreds they have to process each year? Also - in which country could they seek political asylum exactly? Surely not the Commonwealth, not EU, not Russia (PM is banned there because they did not comply with Russian FSB orders), not China, not Saudi Arabia... Not so many places left, it seems.
- ezoe 5y agoWhether you like it or not, ProtonMail's business model conflict with most of the jurisdictions. In that sense, they are no better than PirateBay, Wikileaks or Sci-Hub.
- istingray 5y agoAnd more legal requests are coming. Protonmail has a target on its back. That 2/day will soon be 20/day. That means Protonmail needs to stop training users to "trust us". It's a losing strategy. Protonmail must educate users to treat it as an adversary. And to still provide a product worth using. Train users to use Tor. Promote other tools for dissenters.