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I lived there for 5 years. Before that I was in Manhattan for 11. Sorry but San Francisco is a dump, really dirty. I would never move there again. Constant hara

I lived there for 5 years. Before that I was in Manhattan for 11. Sorry but San Francisco is a dump, really dirty. I would never move there again. Constant harassment by the homeless, violent crime everywhere. I was assaulted at 2PM on a bus downtown. A homeless guy took a full 40oz bottle of beer and broke it over the back of my head with no warning. I wasn’t even looking at him. Apparently he was paranoid and thought I was following him. The bus driver and passengers just stared at me and did nothing. The nut walked off. My hands are covered in blood but I manage to call the police and an ambulance- and neither showed up! I walked dizzy and lightheaded to my office nearby and one of my coworkers got me an Uber to the hospital. One story of many actually. I’ve seen shootings and a stabbing and an overdose from fentanyl. Three people I knew died. And the crowd, well of the professionals about 1/3 are the real deal, 1/3 are simply imposters as in sociopaths totally faking their skillset, and the final 1/3 are genuinely insane. If you can afford San Francisco rent then go to Manhattan. Seriously SF is a huge mistake.

gunfighthacksaw 5y ago
When did it used to be good? The 90s? The 00s? I’ve never been (and have no intention to visit) but I remember we got a visit from some Cisco folks at a career fair and they were all super enthusiastic, engaged, what I assumed were hotshot engineers. Then one of them said “my roommates and I” and I realized that this guy, way more gregarious and successful than me, had to split a place with more than one person he wasn’t in a relationship with, dude looked mid-late 20s too… Even Toronto prices intimidate me and those are pretty decent for the quality of city, though last time I visited the tent cities and human feces were getting worse…
- rufus_foreman 5y ago
  Well I'm not sure what you mean by good. It's always been some level of crazy, but there used to be, late 80s/early 90s a trade-off between crazy and cheap rent. No idea what the attraction is now.
cam0 5y ago
Any SF resident will tell you it depends on which neighborhood you're in... it's pretty nice over here in Noe - tons of young families pushing strollers and hanging out on the sidewalks in front of homes and cafes. Some parts of SF are a dump, but certainly not all of it.

gunfighthacksaw 5y ago

When did it used to be good? The 90s? The 00s? I’ve never been (and have no intention to visit) but I remember we got a visit from some Cisco folks at a career fair and they were all super enthusiastic, engaged, what I assumed were hotshot engineers. Then one of them said “my roommates and I” and I realized that this guy, way more gregarious and successful than me, had to split a place with more than one person he wasn’t in a relationship with, dude looked mid-late 20s too… Even Toronto prices intimidate me and those are pretty decent for the quality of city, though last time I visited the tent cities and human feces were getting worse…

rufus_foreman 5y ago
Well I'm not sure what you mean by good. It's always been some level of crazy, but there used to be, late 80s/early 90s a trade-off between crazy and cheap rent. No idea what the attraction is now.

cam0 5y ago

Any SF resident will tell you it depends on which neighborhood you're in... it's pretty nice over here in Noe - tons of young families pushing strollers and hanging out on the sidewalks in front of homes and cafes. Some parts of SF are a dump, but certainly not all of it.