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As a European: this is extremely funny. America has been doing this for years. Apparently only when it's not America doing these things it becomes a problem?

by Snd_ 5y ago

28433552 5y ago
Well, you could certainly see why the situation changes when the service is controlled by an adversarial government. At least the US services are only clandestinely influenced by the US government. TikTok is practically a Trojan horse
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  US services operate with the full cooperation of Google and Amazon, and the ability to compel them however they want for foreigners otherwise.
terracottage 5y ago
Kinda. Many Americans run around with a notion of some kind of noble entrepreneur who provides the bounty of endless choice in consumer goods, even if it's a corporation. The fact that many different brands come from the same factory tends to be overlooked. Americans are also unique in their tolerance for constant advertising where other cultures would consider it gauche and intrusive. TikTok is imo goddamn scary. It is explicitly set up to hook people with gamification techniques, showering likes on new users so they come back for more. Only the subject matter is often politics, activism and intertribal warfare.
- ca01an 5y ago
  I don't see how it is any worse than the many western social media apps and games that use the same addiction inducing techniques
AlexAndScripts 5y ago
America is an ally, if not formally then the shared westernism. China is most definitely not.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  America being an ally only really makes them more dangerous to me as an individual. If I were in trouble with the US government there is a high likelihood my own government would extradite me. There's very little chance of that with the Chinese government, and the chances are they wouldn't be interested in the first place* * Not that the US would be interested in me personally either. But they do take an interest in citizens from other countries.

As a European: this is extremely funny. America has been doing this for years. Apparently only when it's not America doing these things it becomes a problem?

by Snd_ 5y ago

As a European: this is extremely funny. America has been doing this for years. Apparently only when it's not America doing these things it becomes a problem?

28433552 5y ago

Well, you could certainly see why the situation changes when the service is controlled by an adversarial government. At least the US services are only clandestinely influenced by the US government. TikTok is practically a Trojan horse

sudosysgen 5y ago
US services operate with the full cooperation of Google and Amazon, and the ability to compel them however they want for foreigners otherwise.

terracottage 5y ago

Kinda. Many Americans run around with a notion of some kind of noble entrepreneur who provides the bounty of endless choice in consumer goods, even if it's a corporation. The fact that many different brands come from the same factory tends to be overlooked. Americans are also unique in their tolerance for constant advertising where other cultures would consider it gauche and intrusive. TikTok is imo goddamn scary. It is explicitly set up to hook people with gamification techniques, showering likes on new users so they come back for more. Only the subject matter is often politics, activism and intertribal warfare.

ca01an 5y ago
I don't see how it is any worse than the many western social media apps and games that use the same addiction inducing techniques

AlexAndScripts 5y ago

America is an ally, if not formally then the shared westernism. China is most definitely not.

nicoburns 5y ago
America being an ally only really makes them more dangerous to me as an individual. If I were in trouble with the US government there is a high likelihood my own government would extradite me. There's very little chance of that with the Chinese government, and the chances are they wouldn't be interested in the first place* * Not that the US would be interested in me personally either. But they do take an interest in citizens from other countries.