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The argument is that online anonymity itself also creates real-world consequences, such as character assassinations, harassment, and downright internet crime.

by reso 15y ago

The argument is that online anonymity itself also creates real-world consequences, such as character assassinations, harassment, and downright internet crime. If "Civility" means "being nice to each other", why shouldn't we value it, in and of itself?

VladRussian 15y ago
>online anonymity itself also creates real-world consequences, such as character assassinations, harassment, and downright internet crime. anonymity itself doesn't create crime or harassment. Like in the real life, it only makes it easier to perpetrate one. With this being said, why wouldn't we all wear GPS and RFID enabled collars at all times with our name, identification number and scan barcode being promptly visible on the collar? Nice device, goes well with Guchi pants: http://www.extremtrac.com/e/products/personal%20tracking%20system/p18.html http://www.extremtrac.com/e/products/personal%20tracking%20s...
- onedognight 15y ago
  > why wouldn't we all wear GPS and RFID enabled collars at all times with our name, identification number and scan barcode being promptly visible on the collar Like a smart phone?
  - Joakal 15y ago
    A smart phone is not needed. FBI can turn on a phone's microphone: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html A German politician got a telecom company to hand over phone location data: http://blogs.dw-world.de/spectrum/?p=907 http://blogs.dw-world.de/spectrum/?p=907 Pretty animation of phone tracking: http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention
myhf 15y ago
Civility doesn't mean everyone being nice to everyone. It means everyone being nice to the privileged few who can afford clean identities.
neutronicus 15y ago
I think, for a lot of people, "civility" means "ritualized groveling before people more powerful than themselves", and they're unwilling to make it anything more than completely optional.

by reso 15y ago

VladRussian 15y ago

>online anonymity itself also creates real-world consequences, such as character assassinations, harassment, and downright internet crime. anonymity itself doesn't create crime or harassment. Like in the real life, it only makes it easier to perpetrate one. With this being said, why wouldn't we all wear GPS and RFID enabled collars at all times with our name, identification number and scan barcode being promptly visible on the collar? Nice device, goes well with Guchi pants: http://www.extremtrac.com/e/products/personal%20tracking%20system/p18.html http://www.extremtrac.com/e/products/personal%20tracking%20s...

onedognight 15y ago
> why wouldn't we all wear GPS and RFID enabled collars at all times with our name, identification number and scan barcode being promptly visible on the collar Like a smart phone?
- Joakal 15y ago
  A smart phone is not needed. FBI can turn on a phone's microphone: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html A German politician got a telecom company to hand over phone location data: http://blogs.dw-world.de/spectrum/?p=907 http://blogs.dw-world.de/spectrum/?p=907 Pretty animation of phone tracking: http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention

myhf 15y ago

Civility doesn't mean everyone being nice to everyone. It means everyone being nice to the privileged few who can afford clean identities.

neutronicus 15y ago

I think, for a lot of people, "civility" means "ritualized groveling before people more powerful than themselves", and they're unwilling to make it anything more than completely optional.