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who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china? this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on
by colesantiago 5y ago
who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china?
this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on it.
- finfinfin 5y agoBecause China is an authoritarian regime?
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- colesantiago 5y agoSo? TikTok is just an app, what is point?
- finfinfin 5y agoThe point is that a company that is controlled by an authoritarian regime has a vast influence on the US population.
- colesantiago 5y agoThen you must have been fine with Trump trying to ban the app then? > The point is that a company that is controlled by an authoritarian regime Hard evidence for this claim? Is TikTok Inc, controlled by China?
- finfinfin 5y ago> Then you must have been fine with Trump trying to ban the app then? That was an authoritarian action and I did not support it. China tightly controls all large businesses, including ByteDance. If you need hard evidence on how this relationship works - look it up, there is plenty of information online.
- refenestrator 5y agoWhat do you call a nation that spends 800B on the military while their infrastructure rots, routinely sponsors coups all over their hemisphere and maintains an aggressive forward military posture all over the planet? A democracy.
- finfinfin 5y agoThis is not a competition, both countries can be in a dire state politically.
- wutbrodo 5y agoWhat do you think the word democracy means? None of that is incompatible with being a democracy. That's not a defense of those actions, but there's an incredibly bizarre trend these days to act as if words don't have any actual meaning beyond their mood affiliation. Just pick a word from a vaguely-related grab bag ("living wage", "misinformation", "democratic", white supremacy ") and hurl it blindly at the conversation and you get all the retweets you want.
- ipaddr 5y agoA democracy is a form of government where citizens pick who is in charge. You can have pacifist government against war. You can have the opposite. Norway is a democracy but doesn't have an aggressive miliary posture. The US has the largest army and probably spends 800b on their military. Authoritarian government manage by suppressing their own people. This requires an aggressive military presence locally. All of the conditions above could be true as well for these types of governments.
- refenestrator 5y agoThere's polling numbers on all this. You can check popular approval of imperial wars in the US (it is low), or you can check Chinese approval of their government (it is high).
- MathCodeLove 5y agoAh yes, the extremely reputable self-reporting from Chinese citizens, who absolutely have no fear for their safety should they say the wrong thing. Of course the Chinese love the CCP, they all say so!
- RyEgswuCsn 5y agoDo you think there can be good authoritarian regimes? Or is democracy the only way?
- mdoms 5y agoLet's say there can be - is China one?
- sudosysgen 5y agoIf you admit that, the issue becomes actual reality, not authoritarianism per se, and the comparison between the US and China becomes very uncomfortable when democracy is no longer a crutch.
- mdoms 5y agoWhat the hell are you talking about? China is currently undergoing an active genocide.
- sudosysgen 5y agoIt must be a serious indictment that an active genocide causes less fatalities than the war in Iraq, then.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoLook up the definition of genocide. Mass killing is not a requirement.
- RyEgswuCsn 5y agoIf the supremacy of democracy is not absolute, then who's to judge whether China is or is not one?
- over_bridge 5y ago"Good" is such a subjective term. Even the worst totalitarian governments are good for some percentage of the population. Even the best democratic ones have people who are struggling against the system and would regard it as evil. I live in New Zealand and there are people driving around thinking we are a communist country and feeling oppressed by government. They express as much through the signs and stickers all over their vehicles. I wish that good and evil existed in a measurable way but I fear that we live in a world of grey and everyone sees the shades differently from their different perspectives.
- mcclosdl 5y agoWe'll see how you feel when China takes over the world and your kids are only allowed to play video games 8pm-9pm on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday... unless you're Muslim in which case all of you can work in a labor camp with no rights or technology.
- colesantiago 5y agoOK, but irrelevant. What has this got to do with TikTok?