There's a fundamental political/ideological divide here that's hidden by framing everything in economic jargon. It's basically like this: Degrowthers, like e.

There's a fundamental political/ideological divide here that's hidden by framing everything in economic jargon. It's basically like this: Degrowthers, like e.g. Jason Hickel, generally want a more equal society, perhaps even socialistic, and think that the climate crisis is a blatant proof that capitalism is unsustainable and that to keep trying to save it is basically to prefer go down with the ship than to even try to change course. On the others side, people like Noah Smith are more in the status-quo lane that most of all want to save capitalism from itself using massive investments in technology etc - but not necessarily any systemic changes. This naturally have caused these two crowds to throw pretty heated arguments at each other, and certainly not "unbiased objective facts" - if that ever has existed.