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> They might not lose, but they could still be embarrassed or greatly inconvenienced by the results. "Embarrassed by the results"? They didn't seem to have bee
by jhgb 5y ago
> They might not lose, but they could still be embarrassed or greatly inconvenienced by the results.
"Embarrassed by the results"? They didn't seem to have been embarrassed by this: https://manipulatori.cz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Sn%C3%ADmek-obrazovky-1010.png https://manipulatori.cz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Sn%C3%ADm...
- ineedasername 5y agoWhat is your point? We're talking about the current election and whether or not Navalny's new initiative will change the way things have gone in the past. By definition, the issue is whether or not past results will be repeated. Pointing to those past results is supposed to mean... what? That things won't change? Maybe they won't. But the claim here is that Navalny's actions might move the needle a little. You can't point to past results as an objection to that claim because then you're just saying "The results won't change from the past, because look at these results from the past." It is tautological. If you object to that claim, the way to justify it is by addressing how Navalny's initiative might be useless. And it might be useless: it depends on how many people it reached and, as I said originally, how fine grained the current party's control is over the election outcomes.
- jhgb 5y agoMy point was that such results would most likely not lead to any embarrassment since the embarrassment threshold for elections in Russia seems to be very high. I did not say a word about anything changing or not.