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Majority of the research at universities is powered by graduate students, most of whom are in turn internationals. This makes a lot of sense- which US/Canadian
by esalman 5y ago
Majority of the research at universities is powered by graduate students, most of whom are in turn internationals. This makes a lot of sense- which US/Canadian citizens with bachelor degrees in their right mind would do graduate research for less than minimum wage (international grads are paid for max 20 hours of work in the US), when they can make double or more by flipping burgers at McDonald's? So yeah, do your best for "primary" student population, this is pretty much how you give up scientific leadership and technological supremacy (to China).
- dataflow 5y ago> Majority of the research at universities is powered by graduate students, most of whom are in turn internationals. [...] My understanding was the discussion is about undergraduate study ("second-year chemical engineering student").
- esalman 5y agoImmigration procedures are the same for both undergrad and grad international students.
- dataflow 5y agoThe implications for university research aren't.
- esalman 5y agoThe discussion concerns international students, not just undergraduate international students.
- dataflow 5y agoYou can say that, but the article was about an undergrad, and I'm pretty sure the user you replied to had undergrads in mind when they replied (for whom classes are the focus), not research-focused grad students. And in any case, you can consider that as a possible approach that wouldn't have the downside you suggested.
- Causality1 5y agoWhat's the point of plowing money into maintaining technological supremacy when they can walk into our servers every five years and take everything we invented?
- vkou 5y agoYour generalizations are (AFAIK) largely accurate in the United States, but not in Canada. The immigration policies of the two countries differ substantially. International students in Canada can get work permits without much difficulty, and have a relatively easy path towards permanent residency & naturalization once they graduate. The reason so many international students enroll in graduate studies have nothing to do with how much they can get paid flipping burgers, and everything to do with why they are enrolling in a foreign program in the first place. A graduate degree significantly improves their career prospects at home, and opens a lot of immigration doors abroad.