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Your position does stand. It is: "the Hacker News community" is not "sophisticated" "on this topic" and is engaged in "a bear-trap of outraged hysteria, a mora
by blagie 5y ago
Your position does stand. It is:
"the Hacker News community" is not "sophisticated" "on this topic" and is engaged in "a bear-trap of outraged hysteria, a moral panic from people who should know better," while I have "hysterical repulsion."
I responded to this position.
Since you're now asking for a clarification: If I am running a social media platform for the sharing of photos, I am responsible for the content on that platform. It is my platform. I'd better have scanning for not just CSAM, but hate speech, misinformation, harassment, criminal activity, and a slew of other things. If Facebook becomes a platform for the sharing of child pornography, or the collapse of our democracy, or polarization, Facebook has done something deeply unethical, and should be held accountable, whether through the courts of law or the courts of public opinion. On the other hand, users have little expectation of privacy on Facebook.
In contrast, if I paid for a phone or a computer, it is MY private device. I bought it, and I should have an expectation of privacy there. I should be able to trust that my device isn't out to get me. Even a space like AWS or GCE, where I am paying for a machine, I should have some reasonable expectation of privacy.
It's the difference between running a shopping mall (or an exclusive club) and selling a private home. If I'm running a business, I'm responsible for what happens on my turf. If I'm selling you a product, you're responsible for what you do with it. Your home developer have no right to install spy cameras in your home, even if they will only call up the police if they're 100% sure you're a racist terrorist raping underage [taboo] [taboo] [taboo] ....
There are plenty of other distinctions, such as around evidence and due process, but I don't want this turning into an essay. You can use a search engine for yourself; plenty has been written on this, and insulting people isn't a good lead-in to asking them to save you that effort.
And the EFF is right that Facebook does plenty of nasty things. This just doesn't happen to be one of them.