4 ms·

Why is that story so far fetched exactly?

dylan604 5y ago
That so many hidden/secret chips are being placed on mobos that we are suffering a global chip shortage because of it? Do you really need it explained why that's far fetched? I'm going to let you think on that a bit longer. It should have kicked in by now.
- sockpuppet_12 5y ago
  I was referring to the Bloomberg article, you can turn off that incredulity-drive now.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    The Heart of Gold has the improbability drive, while its sister ship the Heart of Silver has the incredulity drive. I like it. I hadn't heard that one before.
philistine 5y ago
If you are referring to Bloomberg's bombshell story about rogue chips installed on motherboards in China during assembly at the factory that then have compromised Apple and Amazon (referenced here: https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/bloombergs-bombshell-or-dud-on-chinese-espionage-even-if-true-whats-new/ https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/bloombergs-bom...) than the far-fetched element is that it has been three years since the story came out and not a single element of physical evidence have been presented, when one would simply need a microscope to find them in devices. This after multiple major news organizations spent years trying to follow-up on the story and found no evidence whatsoever to back it up. It was a game of telephone gone horribly wrong, and Bloomberg's reputation is shot since they have refused to retract it.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- bskrobisz 5y ago
  >when one would simply need a microscope to find them in devices This isn't a true statement, if strictly read--there are many techniques to hide undocumented components on boards, and covering all of them requires more than just a pass under a SEM. There's a fun talk that goes over a lot of them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As
- 10GBps 5y ago
  Bloomberg continues to build on this theory (same reporter AFAIK) even as recently as this year https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/ https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/

That so many hidden/secret chips are being placed on mobos that we are suffering a global chip shortage because of it? Do you really need it explained why that's far fetched? I'm going to let you think on that a bit longer. It should have kicked in by now.

sockpuppet_12 5y ago
I was referring to the Bloomberg article, you can turn off that incredulity-drive now.
- dylan604 5y ago
  The Heart of Gold has the improbability drive, while its sister ship the Heart of Silver has the incredulity drive. I like it. I hadn't heard that one before.

philistine 5y ago

If you are referring to Bloomberg's bombshell story about rogue chips installed on motherboards in China during assembly at the factory that then have compromised Apple and Amazon (referenced here: https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/bloombergs-bombshell-or-dud-on-chinese-espionage-even-if-true-whats-new/ https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/bloombergs-bom...) than the far-fetched element is that it has been three years since the story came out and not a single element of physical evidence have been presented, when one would simply need a microscope to find them in devices. This after multiple major news organizations spent years trying to follow-up on the story and found no evidence whatsoever to back it up. It was a game of telephone gone horribly wrong, and Bloomberg's reputation is shot since they have refused to retract it.

deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
bskrobisz 5y ago
>when one would simply need a microscope to find them in devices This isn't a true statement, if strictly read--there are many techniques to hide undocumented components on boards, and covering all of them requires more than just a pass under a SEM. There's a fun talk that goes over a lot of them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As
10GBps 5y ago
Bloomberg continues to build on this theory (same reporter AFAIK) even as recently as this year https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/ https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/