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Wouldn't "any" include authority compelled logging?

• COGlory 5y ago
  Perhaps, but I'd imagine that semantically, "by default" negates that since this is clearly not a default situation.
  • hh3k0 5y ago
    Stop trying to defend indefensible behavior by getting hung up on semantics. I, for one, will not renew my ProtonMail account if that's their status quo.
    • kazen44 5y ago
      what other status quo do you expect from them? Having to provide IP logs after a warrant has been issued is the law in switserland (and most if not all of the EU). Sure, the law would (hopefully) be changed, but at the moment, this is the best they can legally do?
      • ipaddr 5y ago
        Tell users you are being logged on website. Put alert warning that account has logging enabled Change the service so collecting logs is not possible Stop adding captcha to tor users login because you want to identify users
        • COGlory 5y ago
          >Tell users you are being logged on website. Frequently not legal >Put alert warning that account has logging enabled See above. Gag orders a problem with government in general. They do have a warrant canary page though, as well as a transparency report. https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ >Change the service so collecting logs is not possible You mean stop serving HTTP and MX requests? >Stop adding captcha to tor users login because you want to identify users You mean let bots brute-force my password?
    • COGlory 5y ago
      I'm extremely confused by this. Unless you are naive enough to assume that ProtonMail is incapable of logging IP addresses (in which case they'd be incapable of serving HTTP requests...see the problem?) then they can log. And they most certainly aren't going to declare independence from Switzerland and refuse to turn on IP logging when required to by law. Whereas with E2E-E, they actually are incapable of turning over readable emails.