Thanks, and yeah that makes sense. Until Kessel Run (and later P1) got off the ground I don't think I've ever encountered any team in DoD able to effectively us

Thanks, and yeah that makes sense. Until Kessel Run (and later P1) got off the ground I don't think I've ever encountered any team in DoD able to effectively use cloud or "DevOps", except from the Intelligence Community. Even with P1, I would point to their rapid provisioning of MM chat as an example of where they were able to move quickly... but that was the P1 team fielding it, not P1 fielding a platform that downstream teams can jump onto quickly. Even now there's been little point to trying to adopt P1 directly, as I understand it you're supposed to onboard through a separate software factory instead. And that's hard to do in the Navy lol (we're trying with things like Black Pearl to build on top of what P1 has done but that launched a year ago and there's still little ability to onboard new efforts). > But apparently the government is just not willing to spend money any more. It's hard to see how. It's not like the federal budget is getting any smaller. But I have no idea where that money is going. The federal government spends so much on IT that's its well into "waste, fraud, abuse" territory. I don't know where it goes either, but I think it's 20% labor of staff who are no-value-add middlemen, 30% on cybersecurity paperwork documenting the lack of security, 30% PowerPoints documenting the lack of progress, and maybe 10%-15% on the actual technology/cloud/development. I'm heartened to see that someone is able to do better (even if they need the 'classified' shield to keep the technicals focused on technology) but I really wish we could hurry up on replicating the IC / Kessel Run model to a wider part of the DoD.