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Logging is the liability not the other way around. You can’t be forced to hand over something you don’t have

• Raed667 5y ago
  You can be forced to log though. I'm not sure how your tech-stack has to look like for you to claim that you can't log IP addresses and user-agents etc...
  • drexlspivey 5y ago
    Some VPN providers run their servers without hard drives.
    • luckylion 5y ago
      Thank god their servers aren't on a network where they could simply send the log entries to a different server. That's a cute idea, but it won't get them out of complying with a warrant.
      • chrononaut 5y ago
        Yeah, that seems more a mechanism to prevent forensics analysis of a hard disk to retrieve transient logs that might've been briefly written to disk (?). I hope it isn't being as a means to prevent the means to log for future connections, for the reasons you state.
• kazen44 5y ago
  expect you need to have the infrastructure in place to gather data for police investigations in many countries. If you don't have this infrastructure in place, you are breaking the law as a company which could have enourmous consequences. This does not mean you need to log everything all the time. (usually that is actually quite illegal too) but you need to have infrastructure in place to allow for police investigations. I don't get how people don't understand this. companies need to operate according to the law of the land, this being one of them.