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I want a news organisation to look at 10 jobs that cannot be filled and compare them to the broader market. As most of the unfillable jobs in my area seem to be

I want a news organisation to look at 10 jobs that cannot be filled and compare them to the broader market. As most of the unfillable jobs in my area seem to be manufacturing/outdoor labour that pay as much as retail (which seems a lot nicer) or jobs seeking experienced people at entry level pay.

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chaircher 5y ago
Here in the UK we had supervisor/management positions trying it on for 0 hour contracts and minimum wage for months, although they seem to have gotten the message now they're having to literally shut their doors because they can't get staff. Worst one I saw was night manager of a massive central hotel for minimum wage. I wonder if it's that people have wisened up to the "take on extra responsibilities for no pay because it will look good on your CV" bullshit. Bearing in mind it's only really the last generation or so in the UK who have gotten used to not expecting things like double pay for a night shift, workers expecting to be paid about £10p/h for a bar shift finishing at 4am still isn't a bad deal at all
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > I wonder if it's that people have wisened up to the "take on extra responsibilities for no pay because it will look good on your CV" bullshit. My hypothesis is that a bunch of people in low-paid service jobs like this had their jobs cut under them by the pandemic and were forced to find alternative income streams. That was painful at the time, but now many of those people find themselves in a much stronger position to refuse the work.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
The biggest joke about those manufacturing jobs is a lot of HR will filter you out if you don't have experience. Meanwhile no school trains or teaches you about how to operate a CNC milling machine. Technical colleges offer apprenticeship programs if you can find a place that will sponsor you. But then that circles back to not being able to find a company without experience. The blue collar labor market is just a magnificent joke. I tried it for about 7 years of my life and they will literally only employ you if they somehow know you or you know someone else. If you're just a stranger, they won't even look at your resume. They don't even want to train on shit that in the 1960-1990's, they would take you if you weren't a total moron and could pass a drug test (if that even). Modern HR has become a joke in this situation as well. Not only do they pretend like they add value to a company, but they filter out people who could easily be exploited for cheap simply because they don't have experience. Seriously, just hire a rando who seems vetted, make them do some bitch work and occasionally the main job duties. If they catch on, give them more, if not, get rid of them. It's like employers have become more risk averse than someone investing in CD's...

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chaircher 5y ago

Here in the UK we had supervisor/management positions trying it on for 0 hour contracts and minimum wage for months, although they seem to have gotten the message now they're having to literally shut their doors because they can't get staff. Worst one I saw was night manager of a massive central hotel for minimum wage. I wonder if it's that people have wisened up to the "take on extra responsibilities for no pay because it will look good on your CV" bullshit. Bearing in mind it's only really the last generation or so in the UK who have gotten used to not expecting things like double pay for a night shift, workers expecting to be paid about £10p/h for a bar shift finishing at 4am still isn't a bad deal at all

nicoburns 5y ago
> I wonder if it's that people have wisened up to the "take on extra responsibilities for no pay because it will look good on your CV" bullshit. My hypothesis is that a bunch of people in low-paid service jobs like this had their jobs cut under them by the pandemic and were forced to find alternative income streams. That was painful at the time, but now many of those people find themselves in a much stronger position to refuse the work.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

The biggest joke about those manufacturing jobs is a lot of HR will filter you out if you don't have experience. Meanwhile no school trains or teaches you about how to operate a CNC milling machine. Technical colleges offer apprenticeship programs if you can find a place that will sponsor you. But then that circles back to not being able to find a company without experience. The blue collar labor market is just a magnificent joke. I tried it for about 7 years of my life and they will literally only employ you if they somehow know you or you know someone else. If you're just a stranger, they won't even look at your resume. They don't even want to train on shit that in the 1960-1990's, they would take you if you weren't a total moron and could pass a drug test (if that even). Modern HR has become a joke in this situation as well. Not only do they pretend like they add value to a company, but they filter out people who could easily be exploited for cheap simply because they don't have experience. Seriously, just hire a rando who seems vetted, make them do some bitch work and occasionally the main job duties. If they catch on, give them more, if not, get rid of them. It's like employers have become more risk averse than someone investing in CD's...