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Isn't this almost tautological? Like, you can't have a high fat low carb diet that includes much alcohol and sweet confectionary.

cassianoleal 5y ago
There are many forms of alcohol that don't include too much carbs. On top of that, I believe the GP was talking about not craving those at all as opposed to consciously abstaining despite the desire. Having been on a similar diet in the past, I second the notion.
- creddit 5y ago
  Alcohol itself is a carb. There is no alcohol without "too much carbs". The point, though, is if you've succeeded at cutting out carbs, then it's pretty likely you did so by no longer desiring them. So to have a set of people who succeeded at low carb diets claim that the low carb diet was the potential cause of no longer desiring carbs is a strong selection bias. It's like a fooled by randomness type scenario. It's not like they said "I started playing golf and no longer desired carbs" which would really be novel.
  - cassianoleal 5y ago
    You're clearly someone who never had issues with cravings and diet control. Good for you! For many people though, cutting out carbs come at an expense. You need to police yourself constantly in order to not give in to cravings. You get twitchy, you get anxious, you get a lot more withdrawal symptoms and you need to soldier through them. Once you're out of the habit and your body has adapted to getting most of its energy from other nutrients, the cravings reduce or disappear. Playing golf will probably have no real connection to these results. Making an effort (sometimes a huge one) to cut them down to the point where they cease to be a phisiological and psychological necessity does. On the point of alcohol being a carbohydrate, you may be right. I am no chemist. It does contain all the same core elements. From a behavioural, dieting and additction points of view though, they are quite different.

cassianoleal 5y ago

There are many forms of alcohol that don't include too much carbs. On top of that, I believe the GP was talking about not craving those at all as opposed to consciously abstaining despite the desire. Having been on a similar diet in the past, I second the notion.

creddit 5y ago
Alcohol itself is a carb. There is no alcohol without "too much carbs". The point, though, is if you've succeeded at cutting out carbs, then it's pretty likely you did so by no longer desiring them. So to have a set of people who succeeded at low carb diets claim that the low carb diet was the potential cause of no longer desiring carbs is a strong selection bias. It's like a fooled by randomness type scenario. It's not like they said "I started playing golf and no longer desired carbs" which would really be novel.
- cassianoleal 5y ago
  You're clearly someone who never had issues with cravings and diet control. Good for you! For many people though, cutting out carbs come at an expense. You need to police yourself constantly in order to not give in to cravings. You get twitchy, you get anxious, you get a lot more withdrawal symptoms and you need to soldier through them. Once you're out of the habit and your body has adapted to getting most of its energy from other nutrients, the cravings reduce or disappear. Playing golf will probably have no real connection to these results. Making an effort (sometimes a huge one) to cut them down to the point where they cease to be a phisiological and psychological necessity does. On the point of alcohol being a carbohydrate, you may be right. I am no chemist. It does contain all the same core elements. From a behavioural, dieting and additction points of view though, they are quite different.