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I found a passively cooled x86 box that I run openwrt on. It's got 6 Intel gigabit NICs and I use Proxmox to virtualize guests. OpenWrt is one of those guests,

I found a passively cooled x86 box that I run openwrt on. It's got 6 Intel gigabit NICs and I use Proxmox to virtualize guests. OpenWrt is one of those guests, as is Home Assistant which controls various home automation things. I posted about it on Reddit a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/hzvfih/new_router_i58365u_quad_core_6_intel_nics https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/hzvfih/new_router_... At the time it had much better hardware at a similar price to more popular brands like Protectli and Qotom. Not sure what the scene is currently, but there a bunch of similar offerings on AliExpress.

zbrozek 5y ago
Why did you choose x86 openwrt over opnsense? I chose opnsense because it never occurred to me to run openwrt on not-a-consumer-router and now I'm wondering if I screwed up. Like you, I run a single x86 box with a handful of guests for random stuff - including Home Assistant!
- jvolkman 5y ago
  I did try opnsense, but found that I wanted wireguard more than any of the features it offered. At the time wireguard wasn't a built-in option, so went back to OpenWrt which I was already familiar with anyway from running it on Linksys routers.
  - zbrozek 5y ago
    Makes sense! I'm using wireguard on opnsense (but it's a newish feature) and so far it's been a great experience.
  - circularfoyers 5y ago
    I had a similar experience and ended up doing the same. OPNsense does include a userspace implementation of Wireguard, but is obviously inferior to what Linux already has. It ended up being that, how poorly the initial kernel space implementation was handled for FreeBSD and that I wanted Cake for QoS, which made me move back to OpenWRT. I do want to ask though, has there been any downsides to using OpenWRT on x86?
    - jvolkman 5y ago
      Late reply but - I haven't really run into notable downsides. Installation was somewhat of a pain since I had to resize the partition (all of the prebuilt images assume small hardware), and all of the default packages are as minimal as possible - like busybox for userspace/shell. Upgrading on X86 is I guess possible (I haven't tried yet), but most of OpenWRT's upgrading instructions/support are geared towards reflashing firmware, not updating packages on ext4. But, there are a bunch of available packages - coreutils, zsh/bash, etc., that can be installed as desired. In general OpenWRT is pretty set-it/forget-it for me.
- bubblethink 5y ago
  openwrt is/was better for fq_codel and cake which were linux things. There may also be other packages that you may find on one or the other. I make extensive use of vpn-policy-routing on openwrt which does selective routing over a few different vpn interfaces (wg, openconnect, etc.). Not sure if something like this exists in bsd land.

zbrozek 5y ago

Why did you choose x86 openwrt over opnsense? I chose opnsense because it never occurred to me to run openwrt on not-a-consumer-router and now I'm wondering if I screwed up. Like you, I run a single x86 box with a handful of guests for random stuff - including Home Assistant!

jvolkman 5y ago
I did try opnsense, but found that I wanted wireguard more than any of the features it offered. At the time wireguard wasn't a built-in option, so went back to OpenWrt which I was already familiar with anyway from running it on Linksys routers.
- zbrozek 5y ago
  Makes sense! I'm using wireguard on opnsense (but it's a newish feature) and so far it's been a great experience.
- circularfoyers 5y ago
  I had a similar experience and ended up doing the same. OPNsense does include a userspace implementation of Wireguard, but is obviously inferior to what Linux already has. It ended up being that, how poorly the initial kernel space implementation was handled for FreeBSD and that I wanted Cake for QoS, which made me move back to OpenWRT. I do want to ask though, has there been any downsides to using OpenWRT on x86?
  - jvolkman 5y ago
    Late reply but - I haven't really run into notable downsides. Installation was somewhat of a pain since I had to resize the partition (all of the prebuilt images assume small hardware), and all of the default packages are as minimal as possible - like busybox for userspace/shell. Upgrading on X86 is I guess possible (I haven't tried yet), but most of OpenWRT's upgrading instructions/support are geared towards reflashing firmware, not updating packages on ext4. But, there are a bunch of available packages - coreutils, zsh/bash, etc., that can be installed as desired. In general OpenWRT is pretty set-it/forget-it for me.
bubblethink 5y ago
openwrt is/was better for fq_codel and cake which were linux things. There may also be other packages that you may find on one or the other. I make extensive use of vpn-policy-routing on openwrt which does selective routing over a few different vpn interfaces (wg, openconnect, etc.). Not sure if something like this exists in bsd land.