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"Look closer, you’ll find them doing cross app and cross device linking and behavior aggregation, and “sharing with our partners”. Tracing further, the partners

by nbzso 5y ago

"Look closer, you’ll find them doing cross app and cross device linking and behavior aggregation, and “sharing with our partners”. Tracing further, the partners are adtech. Look more broadly, you’ll find these used as sources by firms commercially offering user screening, fraud prevention, credit approval, etc. to enterprises that are making increasingly automated decisions about who qualifies and who doesn’t. We aren’t talking about this*, and that’s weird." Agree. I avoid mobile apps like plague, the only emergency thing is banking apps and for this I have an old iPhone SE. Other than this mobile apps are no go for me. Until I have in my hands Linux phone with acceptable UX I am out of the whole mobile apps idea.

Terretta 5y ago
Banks are among those making telemetry calls they have no idea they’re making. Your bank app strategy is the same one has to use to install or update most IoT today, including appliances that shouldn’t be IoT at all. Those too incorporate these SDKs. Perhaps having a “Linux phone with acceptable UX” in your hands will change product manager and developer behaviors with regards to client-side SDKs. Perhaps Linux will step up and block developers of these SDKs from monitoring Linux users, the way Apple updated their OS (against developer wishes) to block always-on location tracking.
- nbzso 5y ago
  Actually I am planning to shut down emergency scenario of banking apps (installed only because of early pandemic situation) and using only the web access point trough real computer. There is no absolute in this, but I am certain that in my day to day life I have enough privacy compared to regular users of a smartphone or computer. This old iPhone is only active for the banking transaction and only in use cases when I don't have a laptop around. So the compromise is acceptable.
  - lrem 5y ago
    Banking apps provide a nearly unbeatable 3FA for your real computer. There are other services where a similar setup is beneficial. I, an exclusive Android user, am actually considering buying an iPhone to serve only as a 3FA.

by nbzso 5y ago

Terretta 5y ago

Banks are among those making telemetry calls they have no idea they’re making. Your bank app strategy is the same one has to use to install or update most IoT today, including appliances that shouldn’t be IoT at all. Those too incorporate these SDKs. Perhaps having a “Linux phone with acceptable UX” in your hands will change product manager and developer behaviors with regards to client-side SDKs. Perhaps Linux will step up and block developers of these SDKs from monitoring Linux users, the way Apple updated their OS (against developer wishes) to block always-on location tracking.

nbzso 5y ago
Actually I am planning to shut down emergency scenario of banking apps (installed only because of early pandemic situation) and using only the web access point trough real computer. There is no absolute in this, but I am certain that in my day to day life I have enough privacy compared to regular users of a smartphone or computer. This old iPhone is only active for the banking transaction and only in use cases when I don't have a laptop around. So the compromise is acceptable.
- lrem 5y ago
  Banking apps provide a nearly unbeatable 3FA for your real computer. There are other services where a similar setup is beneficial. I, an exclusive Android user, am actually considering buying an iPhone to serve only as a 3FA.