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> Sec. 171.208. CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR ABETTING VIOLATION. (a) Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmenta

> Sec. 171.208. CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR ABETTING VIOLATION. (a) Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may bring a civil action against any person who: (1) performs or induces an abortion in violation of this subchapter; (2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in violation of this subchapter; Where is the line drawn? Can you sue govt officials for providing electricity and building roads to abortion clinics? What about Google Maps and Navigation for showing the clinic on the map and showing the directions? Google knows everything from your searches, browsing, emails, calls and texts that you're pregnant and going to get an abortion. Can you be or act pregnant and ask people nearby for directions to the abortion place and then sue them?

thatfrenchguy 5y ago
Definitely need to sue the head of the DOT for not removing all roads that help people get abortions, which is all roads that lead out of the state.
gjsman-1000 5y ago
This law accomplishes a few things that people are missing: 1. A stark reminder that pro-lifers aren't giving up, and that 48 years of fighting later, they are stronger and getting stronger over time. And that the pro-abortion side should take notice. 2. A law that, even though it will almost inevitably fail, in the eyes of pro-lifers, several dozen children will be saved (due to inability to get abortions) and thus it is worth throwing the curveball regardless of the method. 3. A law that does a great job at getting pro-abortion women into placing blame on the Biden administration as inept and unable to stop Republicans effectively, hurting morale among his voter base, while boosting morale of Republicans to have gotten an even-temporary win after, what, 48 years of fighting? It can also be a political tactic. 4. Remember that ~50% of Republicans are women. This isn't all just angry men who like controlling women, and the pro-abortion side isn't very effective at reaching them.
- flailingroof 5y ago
  2. Or it will just cause the women to get abortions elsewhere, or let the kids grow up in homes that can't support them. Not to mention the extra loads of single moms (or dads). No one will be "saved". What it's more likely to accomplish is to make Texas even more republican, and to make the US appear even more crazy to the outside world.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Adoption is an option, and you have no idea who that child could become. Steve Jobs was given up for adoption because abortion wasn’t legal at the time.
    - cobalt 5y ago
      what about the billions of people already on this planet who are not in such a lucky position?
    - standardUser 5y ago
      We also have no idea who the 15% of all pregnancies that end in miscarriages "could become" but we don't obsess over it because pregnancy never has been and never will be the guarantee of a fully formed independent human being. Not in humans, not in any species.
    - all2 5y ago
      I have an inkling as to why this comment is being downvoted, but I'd love to see some actual responses to it that refute or at least engage with the claim that "adoption is an option".
    - falcolas 5y ago
      Adoption still places the parents under the duress of the medical bills up to the point of adoption, nor does it address the extreme physical duress it places the mother under. Additionally, it does not address cases of rape, incest, pregnancies which have a high chance of killing the mother, or children with severe defects (who are likely to remain in foster homes, in the average-to-good case).
chrismcb 5y ago
Most of the things you mentioned don't knowingly engage in conduct that aids or abets... Not saying this is a good law, but the line is drawn around people who know...
MathMonkeyMan 5y ago
Lawyers exist to distinguish logic from bullshit, and the bullshit is binding.

thatfrenchguy 5y ago

Definitely need to sue the head of the DOT for not removing all roads that help people get abortions, which is all roads that lead out of the state.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

This law accomplishes a few things that people are missing: 1. A stark reminder that pro-lifers aren't giving up, and that 48 years of fighting later, they are stronger and getting stronger over time. And that the pro-abortion side should take notice. 2. A law that, even though it will almost inevitably fail, in the eyes of pro-lifers, several dozen children will be saved (due to inability to get abortions) and thus it is worth throwing the curveball regardless of the method. 3. A law that does a great job at getting pro-abortion women into placing blame on the Biden administration as inept and unable to stop Republicans effectively, hurting morale among his voter base, while boosting morale of Republicans to have gotten an even-temporary win after, what, 48 years of fighting? It can also be a political tactic. 4. Remember that ~50% of Republicans are women. This isn't all just angry men who like controlling women, and the pro-abortion side isn't very effective at reaching them.

flailingroof 5y ago
2. Or it will just cause the women to get abortions elsewhere, or let the kids grow up in homes that can't support them. Not to mention the extra loads of single moms (or dads). No one will be "saved". What it's more likely to accomplish is to make Texas even more republican, and to make the US appear even more crazy to the outside world.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Adoption is an option, and you have no idea who that child could become. Steve Jobs was given up for adoption because abortion wasn’t legal at the time.
  - cobalt 5y ago
    what about the billions of people already on this planet who are not in such a lucky position?
  - standardUser 5y ago
    We also have no idea who the 15% of all pregnancies that end in miscarriages "could become" but we don't obsess over it because pregnancy never has been and never will be the guarantee of a fully formed independent human being. Not in humans, not in any species.
  - all2 5y ago
    I have an inkling as to why this comment is being downvoted, but I'd love to see some actual responses to it that refute or at least engage with the claim that "adoption is an option".
  - falcolas 5y ago
    Adoption still places the parents under the duress of the medical bills up to the point of adoption, nor does it address the extreme physical duress it places the mother under. Additionally, it does not address cases of rape, incest, pregnancies which have a high chance of killing the mother, or children with severe defects (who are likely to remain in foster homes, in the average-to-good case).

chrismcb 5y ago

Most of the things you mentioned don't knowingly engage in conduct that aids or abets... Not saying this is a good law, but the line is drawn around people who know...

MathMonkeyMan 5y ago

Lawyers exist to distinguish logic from bullshit, and the bullshit is binding.