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Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.
by goatherders 5y ago
Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.
- marcinzm 5y agoI wonder if that's a partial goal of this law. Keep the state red and have those who are more liberal leave. Ensures a nice voting block for national elections and ensures local officials do not get voted out in the future.
- goatherders 5y agoYes. I literally drew the Texas congressional lines in 2000 that set all this in motion and the primary goal of everything the state party does is to purge the state of people that don't vote Republican.
- xxpor 5y agoWoah woah woah hold up. You're the person who actually drew the lines? Sorry if this is rude, but what the hell were you thinking?
- goatherders 5y agoI was a 22 year old republican given something important to do. I had no idea at the time that we were setting the country on an irredeemable path. It was as exciting at the time as it is shameful now.
- fzzzy 5y agoThanks for being so honest and being willing to reevaluate your stance given life experience.
- goatherders 5y agoI've told many people 5hat for all the good and bad I've done in life, the one thing that worries me if there actually is St Peter is my work on the congressional maps. Not to self agrandize (sp) and what's done is done, but the impact continues to be awful for the state and the country as a whole.
- kongin 5y agoThe Texas lines can be made so much more efficiently Republican: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-Y7crQo44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-Y7crQo44
- labster 5y agoWhat software did you use back then? How did the process change when they started using software as a tool to gerrymander?
- NotACop182 5y agoWhooo! Hold my beer! You literally were part of the group to draw the lines. Imagine looking back and seeing the damage it has caused in the long run. I couldn’t even imagine.
- goatherders 5y agoYes. I was an intern for the ranking republican in the Texas state house (Tom craddick) at the time. I was the only person who knew how to use a computer at more than a basic level so I had my hand on the mouse as we used a brand new map program loaded with voter data. Others in the room at various points included Tom Delay, Mike Baselice (disgraced Trump consultant) Governor George W Bush, Ted Deleese, and some guy named Scott. But I'm being literal: I had my hand on the mouse and drew the map.
- alecst 5y agoWait what -- is this for real?
- goatherders 5y agoAfraid so.
- CamperBob2 5y agoI fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. - apocryphally credited to Admiral Yamamoto
- AdrianB1 5y agoWith such laws in place, if I would live in US there would be no place for people like me, not blue and not red (and partly blue and partly red on various topics). This is because none of the 2 sides are perfect and many people do not fall in one side. So what is the point?
- marcinzm 5y agoThis is a law in one state out of 50 so you have a decent choice of other options.
- goatherders 5y agoYou don't seem to understand "precedent"
- version_five 5y agoThat's a failing of democracy isn't it. One optimum is to make it so the only people in your jurisdiction are those that all want the same thing. This is an argument for a strong constitution and court system and against direct democracy.
- flailingroof 5y agoIt's certainly a failing of the flawed US democracy, but fortunately there are much better ways to implement democracies.
- marcinzm 5y agoThey all have their flaws. Parliamentary democracies, for example, are susceptible to minority extreme views having massive weight if they are needed to keep a coalition in power. Direct democracies are the opposite with minority views being ignored. edit: Also, one needs to separate the impact of the democratic system from that of the social/cultural system. A country with a very homogenous population tends to have less issues under any system of government.
- conductr 5y agoI’m life long Texan and Yes that is one purpose. It’s excessively conservative to keep hold of the state. But also a reminder that our GOP state politicians are horrible Trump humpers and morally corrupt while believing they are righteous by enacting these laws. They are the worst people but unfortunately this is the reality of Texas. It’s like pockets of high diversity and rational thinkers surrounded by hoards of wackos.
- jimbob45 5y agoAbbott is up for re-election in ~one year, though. Edit: this isn’t to say Democrats will or won’t win…but it’s also not to say Abbott won’t simply get primary’d out.
- goatherders 5y agoAnd if Beto will get out of the way and run for Lt Governor (where the real power is) so McCaughey can run for Governor we might turn things around
- CamperBob2 5y agoProbably a good idea not to threaten to take guns away from Texans, if you want to hold public office in Texas. - A former Texan
- varelse 5y agoMost of my family lives in Texas. They're appalled by this law. But yeah, don't go anywhere near their guns. They've literally called the cops on each other over their guns. They have assault rifles by their beds and vaults full of Zombie Apocalypse ammunition and they didn't think the sketch below was remotely funny... https://youtu.be/QHqB2t-DGb8 https://youtu.be/QHqB2t-DGb8
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- justin66 5y ago> it’s also not to say Abbott won’t simply get primary’d out Is a newsworthy and heavy handed anti-abortion bill likely to make a republican governor more vulnerable to a primary challenge? In Texas?
- tapvt 5y agoI think it is likely to do so. I live and TX, and most Texans, by my measure, do not want to be told what they can and cannot do.