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I welcome the chip shortage. I implore the national security state and the intelligence community to take action and intensify this trend. Thus the advance of

I welcome the chip shortage. I implore the national security state and the intelligence community to take action and intensify this trend. Thus the advance of artificial intelligence will be slowed and we will have more time to practice AI regulation and control. Only then may strong AI be permitted to eventuate. Otherwise it may destroy us. He who develops AI would be punished severely were we to live in a just world. We need a butlerian jihad against AI, led by the national security state, equipped by the brave men and women of Anduril incorporated. The damage to the rest of the economy is unfortunate but a cost I am willing to accept. Now what do we actually need that hardware for, aside from training language models or mining bitcoin? Why don’t we also develop more efficient software? Why don’t we pay people to do so? Many of you in this thread could work on this, and be paid handsomely for it.

nightfly 5y ago
What are you afraid AI will do?
- andrewnicolalde 5y ago
  Perhaps to further what oppressive humans have long wanted but not previously had the capability to do.
  - qualudeheart 5y ago
    Per the orthogonality thesis (Bostrom) I do not even expect AI to have similar moral values to ours. I expect it to instrumentally secure power to better pursue it’s goals, and in the process thereof establish hegemony over us and other AIs. From there it could easily try to kill us. I don’t want any of that. My preferred outcome seems to be what Elon Musk wants, human cyborgs amplified with brain computer interfaces and control over machines; never a machine with control over many humans or posthumans.
- qualudeheart 5y ago
  The main threat model is a Yudkowskian rapid takeoff where artificial general intelligence recursively self improves far beyond human intelligence, making it like a god with absolute power compared to us. This corresponds to the agentic model of artificial general intelligence put forth by Bostrom. Yudkowskian AGI might fail in the long term since it would run into Gödelian problems it would never be able to solve but infinitely loop on. That humans are immune to those and can behold contradictions testifies to a Penrosian supra-turing-machinic aspect to the human mind. Man has a transcendent aspect even if we may not be meta-cognitively aware of it at all times. AGIs could possibly be destroyed through the use of such problems, akin to magical spells wielded by powerful magi. A secondary threat model of mine is based on a world of non-general, non-agentic strong AI with many discrete “tool AIs” with superhuman ability in one unique area. The secondary model is mostly harmless except for military AI. The genius of Andúril Incorporated lies in their creation of drones designed to destroy other drones. This future is still very dangerous, and I hope that the security state will take action to prevent it’s arrival.
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nightfly 5y ago

What are you afraid AI will do?

andrewnicolalde 5y ago
Perhaps to further what oppressive humans have long wanted but not previously had the capability to do.
- qualudeheart 5y ago
  Per the orthogonality thesis (Bostrom) I do not even expect AI to have similar moral values to ours. I expect it to instrumentally secure power to better pursue it’s goals, and in the process thereof establish hegemony over us and other AIs. From there it could easily try to kill us. I don’t want any of that. My preferred outcome seems to be what Elon Musk wants, human cyborgs amplified with brain computer interfaces and control over machines; never a machine with control over many humans or posthumans.
qualudeheart 5y ago
The main threat model is a Yudkowskian rapid takeoff where artificial general intelligence recursively self improves far beyond human intelligence, making it like a god with absolute power compared to us. This corresponds to the agentic model of artificial general intelligence put forth by Bostrom. Yudkowskian AGI might fail in the long term since it would run into Gödelian problems it would never be able to solve but infinitely loop on. That humans are immune to those and can behold contradictions testifies to a Penrosian supra-turing-machinic aspect to the human mind. Man has a transcendent aspect even if we may not be meta-cognitively aware of it at all times. AGIs could possibly be destroyed through the use of such problems, akin to magical spells wielded by powerful magi. A secondary threat model of mine is based on a world of non-general, non-agentic strong AI with many discrete “tool AIs” with superhuman ability in one unique area. The secondary model is mostly harmless except for military AI. The genius of Andúril Incorporated lies in their creation of drones designed to destroy other drones. This future is still very dangerous, and I hope that the security state will take action to prevent it’s arrival.
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