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Ivmmeta is pseudoscientific. It should not be taken seriously by anyone. See a short analysis e.g. at https://mobile.twitter.com/gidmk/status/142204433507630694

Ivmmeta is pseudoscientific. It should not be taken seriously by anyone. See a short analysis e.g. at https://mobile.twitter.com/gidmk/status/1422044335076306947 https://mobile.twitter.com/gidmk/status/1422044335076306947.

joemazerino 5y ago
Calling an established anti-viral medicine "pseudoscientific" is just team politics.
- jhardy54 5y ago
  Ivmmeta is a website, not a medicine.
- OrvalWintermute 5y ago
  It is probably more accurate to describe IVM as a safe antiparasitic with well-known antiviral qualities. However, we don't always know when something has antiviral properties whether it has efficacy or not against a specific virus. That is why a number of studies is a great contributor to determining when it can be of use, or not.
  - distances 5y ago
    Just to point out, I wasn't talking about Ivermectin, I have no qualifications to say anything about the medicine. Just commenting on the bogus "scientific" site the parent linked to, ivmmeta.
OrvalWintermute 5y ago
It is inappropriate to critique a drug's studies, and to apply them to the overall drug itself. "because the studies are flawed, the drug is useless" A more measured response would be to look through the actual studies themselves, ferret out good from bad, and then to draw conclusions. Additionally, to ask questions about variables for which we know there are a ton of potential reasons why we'd see differences. Foremost being food/drug synergism, prescription requirements, genetic differences in drug MOA, and variation of actual covid type. It doesn't refute good studies on ivermectin e.g. "the golden hamster" https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.202114122 https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.202114122 Protocols like Zelenko/McCullough do not list any one drug as a "wonder drug" but instead have a large number of drugs and vitamins to treat all the specific indications in more classes of drugs
gorwell 5y ago
[deleted, misread Ivmmeta as Ivermectin]
- detaro 5y ago
  but not for covid-19, which Ivmmeta is all about... So how is this in any way relevant to the comment you reply to?
  - deleted 5y ago
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joemazerino 5y ago

Calling an established anti-viral medicine "pseudoscientific" is just team politics.

jhardy54 5y ago
Ivmmeta is a website, not a medicine.
OrvalWintermute 5y ago
It is probably more accurate to describe IVM as a safe antiparasitic with well-known antiviral qualities. However, we don't always know when something has antiviral properties whether it has efficacy or not against a specific virus. That is why a number of studies is a great contributor to determining when it can be of use, or not.
- distances 5y ago
  Just to point out, I wasn't talking about Ivermectin, I have no qualifications to say anything about the medicine. Just commenting on the bogus "scientific" site the parent linked to, ivmmeta.

OrvalWintermute 5y ago

It is inappropriate to critique a drug's studies, and to apply them to the overall drug itself. "because the studies are flawed, the drug is useless" A more measured response would be to look through the actual studies themselves, ferret out good from bad, and then to draw conclusions. Additionally, to ask questions about variables for which we know there are a ton of potential reasons why we'd see differences. Foremost being food/drug synergism, prescription requirements, genetic differences in drug MOA, and variation of actual covid type. It doesn't refute good studies on ivermectin e.g. "the golden hamster" https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.202114122 https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.202114122 Protocols like Zelenko/McCullough do not list any one drug as a "wonder drug" but instead have a large number of drugs and vitamins to treat all the specific indications in more classes of drugs

gorwell 5y ago

[deleted, misread Ivmmeta as Ivermectin]

detaro 5y ago
but not for covid-19, which Ivmmeta is all about... So how is this in any way relevant to the comment you reply to?
- deleted 5y ago
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