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Technically, spying on someone involves the element of the subject not knowing that they are being watched. In this case, if you haven't been following this CS

Technically, spying on someone involves the element of the subject not knowing that they are being watched. In this case, if you haven't been following this CSAM scandal and making use of iCloud as usual, should Apple turn this enigma machine on, you don't know your device is being used to spy on you. Am sure Apple will employ the best brains to craft some form of legalese to make sure you tick the "accept" button without fully understanding what it means in the event they roll out.

Johnny555 5y ago
Do you know all the ways your TV is reporting your viewing history? Did you know it can also report your over the air viewing as well as what you play on your DVD player? Do they use the built-in microphone to listen for keywords? What about your smart refrigerator - you might expect it to report refrigerator data (temperature, door openings,etc), but would you be surprised if it's also reporting your bedtime, wake up time, and when you're on vacation? Do you know how long the cell phone company retains your location data, or what they do with it? Do most people even know the cell phone company tracks their location? Many appliances spy on us in ways we don't know.
- freebuju 5y ago
  Maybe true, but I at least know in advance that these devices may be collecting data on me. I'd argue that this is mostly opt-in on my end since am fully aware of the data collection and have a rough idea of the extent this is done. Average Joe down the road doesn't give any care and still actively uses his Facebook account stands no chance against the spying. He can't see it coming. Personally, I live a simple "non-connected" life as much as I possibly can. Any service providers I choose to entertain have to do with the minimum required information to hold the account.
- smegger001 5y ago
  I know excactly how my tv is spying on me. Its not. Its a dumb tv. The streaming dongle on the other hand is a snitch reporting back to the mothership, of course as the mothership in this case amazon is also one of the content providers subscribe too so I cant just block it at the firewall, (I am not concerned about the Atari 2600 or NES phoning home my old original xbox on the other hand complains and pretends to be gimped if it cant talk to Microsoft every so often)

Johnny555 5y ago

Do you know all the ways your TV is reporting your viewing history? Did you know it can also report your over the air viewing as well as what you play on your DVD player? Do they use the built-in microphone to listen for keywords? What about your smart refrigerator - you might expect it to report refrigerator data (temperature, door openings,etc), but would you be surprised if it's also reporting your bedtime, wake up time, and when you're on vacation? Do you know how long the cell phone company retains your location data, or what they do with it? Do most people even know the cell phone company tracks their location? Many appliances spy on us in ways we don't know.

freebuju 5y ago
Maybe true, but I at least know in advance that these devices may be collecting data on me. I'd argue that this is mostly opt-in on my end since am fully aware of the data collection and have a rough idea of the extent this is done. Average Joe down the road doesn't give any care and still actively uses his Facebook account stands no chance against the spying. He can't see it coming. Personally, I live a simple "non-connected" life as much as I possibly can. Any service providers I choose to entertain have to do with the minimum required information to hold the account.
smegger001 5y ago
I know excactly how my tv is spying on me. Its not. Its a dumb tv. The streaming dongle on the other hand is a snitch reporting back to the mothership, of course as the mothership in this case amazon is also one of the content providers subscribe too so I cant just block it at the firewall, (I am not concerned about the Atari 2600 or NES phoning home my old original xbox on the other hand complains and pretends to be gimped if it cant talk to Microsoft every so often)