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>Portions of the website which allow people to submit anonymous tips on suspected abortions on Friday showed a GoDaddy notification saying the site had been loc

>Portions of the website which allow people to submit anonymous tips on suspected abortions on Friday showed a GoDaddy notification saying the site had been locked down. I wonder which part of the TOS this violates. They don't mention it whatsoever

gjsman-1000 5y ago
It doesn't have to violate the TOS. It's a legal website, helping implement a new law, but GoDaddy doesn't like the law. At what point can we admit TOSs are fairly capricious in enforcement?
- singlow 5y ago
  But ISPs are generally expected to work within the TOS. Otherwise the customer could expect to recover damages for malicious actions. If GoDaddy wants to add new terms they should give notice. Violating their own TOS is a breach of contract.
- sodality2 5y ago
  >It's a legal website, helping implement a new law Wrong. The law does not state citizens must track down anyone who has had an abortion.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    But it states that they can, which makes the website legal. They aren't required to, but they are allowed to.
    - sodality2 5y ago
      True, but you make it sound like a legal operation. Edit: By legal, I guess you mean legally allowed. I thought you meant as in an official legal capacity
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Porn (providing it meets 2257 standards) is legal, yet it’s against the terms of many web services. Even though I consume porn, I still think it’s reasonable if operators decide they don’t want it on their platform.
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YPPH 5y ago
Here's a potentially applicable term: >[You must not use GoDaddy to] [v]iolate[] the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breach[] any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity. [emphasis added] It is at least arguable this site infringes a woman's right to privacy when seeking medical treatment. There's also the usual terms that give the service provider a very broad discretion to determine what content is or is not appropriate for their service.
- sodality2 5y ago
  That's what I figured- some sort of personal information violation. I wish they gave a specific clause with the message of termination, though.
jeffbee 5y ago
This part, I assume: """GoDaddy expressly reserves the right to deny, cancel, terminate, suspend, lock, or modify access to (or control of) any Account or Services (including the right to cancel or transfer any domain name registration) for any reason (as determined by GoDaddy in its sole and absolute discretion)"""
smoldesu 5y ago
Section 5, heading ii from Godaddy Legal Agreement: "You will not collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content (as defined below) or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another User or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent." Later, in section 10: "GoDaddy may remove any item of User Content (whether posted to a website hosted by GoDaddy or posted to this Site) and/or terminate a User’s access to this Site or the Services found at this Site for posting or publishing any material in violation of this Agreement, or for otherwise violating this Agreement (as determined by GoDaddy in its sole and absolute discretion), at any time and without prior notice. [...] GoDaddy may, in its sole and absolute discretion, remove and destroy any data and files stored by you on its servers." https://www.godaddy.com/legal/agreements https://www.godaddy.com/legal/agreements
s5300 5y ago
Who is "they", your confirmation bias or the poor media sites you get your information from? GoDaddy clearly stated: "Violate a GoDaddy rule that says website operators may not "collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another user or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent." GoDaddy's terms of service also say that customers cannot use the web hosting platform in a way that "[v]iolates the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breaches any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity."
- sodality2 5y ago
  I'm referring to the Reuters news article. Also, is that quote from a GoDaddy press release or something? Or just quoted from the TOS? because that's my point, that when banning someone, they should include in the report which specific part they violated. This would certainly help accountability

gjsman-1000 5y ago

It doesn't have to violate the TOS. It's a legal website, helping implement a new law, but GoDaddy doesn't like the law. At what point can we admit TOSs are fairly capricious in enforcement?

singlow 5y ago
But ISPs are generally expected to work within the TOS. Otherwise the customer could expect to recover damages for malicious actions. If GoDaddy wants to add new terms they should give notice. Violating their own TOS is a breach of contract.
sodality2 5y ago
>It's a legal website, helping implement a new law Wrong. The law does not state citizens must track down anyone who has had an abortion.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  But it states that they can, which makes the website legal. They aren't required to, but they are allowed to.
  - sodality2 5y ago
    True, but you make it sound like a legal operation. Edit: By legal, I guess you mean legally allowed. I thought you meant as in an official legal capacity
jdavis703 5y ago
Porn (providing it meets 2257 standards) is legal, yet it’s against the terms of many web services. Even though I consume porn, I still think it’s reasonable if operators decide they don’t want it on their platform.

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YPPH 5y ago

Here's a potentially applicable term: >[You must not use GoDaddy to] [v]iolate[] the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breach[] any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity. [emphasis added] It is at least arguable this site infringes a woman's right to privacy when seeking medical treatment. There's also the usual terms that give the service provider a very broad discretion to determine what content is or is not appropriate for their service.

sodality2 5y ago
That's what I figured- some sort of personal information violation. I wish they gave a specific clause with the message of termination, though.

jeffbee 5y ago

This part, I assume: """GoDaddy expressly reserves the right to deny, cancel, terminate, suspend, lock, or modify access to (or control of) any Account or Services (including the right to cancel or transfer any domain name registration) for any reason (as determined by GoDaddy in its sole and absolute discretion)"""

smoldesu 5y ago

Section 5, heading ii from Godaddy Legal Agreement: "You will not collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content (as defined below) or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another User or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent." Later, in section 10: "GoDaddy may remove any item of User Content (whether posted to a website hosted by GoDaddy or posted to this Site) and/or terminate a User’s access to this Site or the Services found at this Site for posting or publishing any material in violation of this Agreement, or for otherwise violating this Agreement (as determined by GoDaddy in its sole and absolute discretion), at any time and without prior notice. [...] GoDaddy may, in its sole and absolute discretion, remove and destroy any data and files stored by you on its servers." https://www.godaddy.com/legal/agreements https://www.godaddy.com/legal/agreements

s5300 5y ago

Who is "they", your confirmation bias or the poor media sites you get your information from? GoDaddy clearly stated: "Violate a GoDaddy rule that says website operators may not "collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another user or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent." GoDaddy's terms of service also say that customers cannot use the web hosting platform in a way that "[v]iolates the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breaches any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity."

sodality2 5y ago
I'm referring to the Reuters news article. Also, is that quote from a GoDaddy press release or something? Or just quoted from the TOS? because that's my point, that when banning someone, they should include in the report which specific part they violated. This would certainly help accountability