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Sounds like you’re describing an external device monitoring vehicle actions. The person you’re replying to is describing the vehicle monitoring and reporting it

Sounds like you’re describing an external device monitoring vehicle actions. The person you’re replying to is describing the vehicle monitoring and reporting its own actions. In my opinion, people have proven themselves too irresponsible in cars (in a way that results in them regularly killing other people), and while I dislike surveillance, I am for the monitoring/reporting measures that are in some European countries.

parineum 5y ago
He's describing an already existing slippery slope to warn against the slippery slope of putting surveillance in the cars themselves.
monkeybutton 5y ago
Right. Like Apple's on-device scanning and reporting, cars could scan and report bad behaviours. Toyotas already can detect when a driver is drowsy based on their driving and prompts them to take a break. How hard would it be to make it call police when the driving is severely impaired?
haswell 5y ago
Driving is a privilege. Historically, the solution to irresponsible driving is to revoke that privilege. Why should law abiding drivers be subjected to surveillance caused by the irresponsible crowd? Why is removing one’s driving privileges not enough? Proactive monitoring/reporting is the stuff of slippery slopes and Minority Report is the direction we’re going at this point…
- notriddle 5y ago
  If you want to treat driving as a privilege, then the city needs to be built with non-driving citizens in mind.
- ryantgtg 5y ago
  It’s because revoking privileges is not an effective means of getting these drivers off the road. It’s not a magic force field that prevents people from sitting behind the wheel. All you’re doing is taking a slip of paper away from people who have already demonstrated themselves to not only be irresponsible but also indifferent toward the law. In fact, revoking driving privileges can be counter productive because it takes away their ability to be insured while driving.

parineum 5y ago

He's describing an already existing slippery slope to warn against the slippery slope of putting surveillance in the cars themselves.

monkeybutton 5y ago

Right. Like Apple's on-device scanning and reporting, cars could scan and report bad behaviours. Toyotas already can detect when a driver is drowsy based on their driving and prompts them to take a break. How hard would it be to make it call police when the driving is severely impaired?

haswell 5y ago

Driving is a privilege. Historically, the solution to irresponsible driving is to revoke that privilege. Why should law abiding drivers be subjected to surveillance caused by the irresponsible crowd? Why is removing one’s driving privileges not enough? Proactive monitoring/reporting is the stuff of slippery slopes and Minority Report is the direction we’re going at this point…

notriddle 5y ago
If you want to treat driving as a privilege, then the city needs to be built with non-driving citizens in mind.
ryantgtg 5y ago
It’s because revoking privileges is not an effective means of getting these drivers off the road. It’s not a magic force field that prevents people from sitting behind the wheel. All you’re doing is taking a slip of paper away from people who have already demonstrated themselves to not only be irresponsible but also indifferent toward the law. In fact, revoking driving privileges can be counter productive because it takes away their ability to be insured while driving.