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I find the more interesting question here to be why is a legitimate medical drug that has been given to humans for legitimate uses only labeled as a horse dewor

I find the more interesting question here to be why is a legitimate medical drug that has been given to humans for legitimate uses only labeled as a horse dewormer? For what it’s worth, I don’t know if ivermectin is effective against covid, but testing out a cheap drug that some doctors make arguments for seems like a smart risk-management decision.

Jochim 5y ago
I mean the FDA explains exactly why on their website[0]. Livestock are much bigger than humans meaning the medication has a much higher dosage and even if the active ingredient is the same the delivery mechanism doesn't have to be, which is why we have so many morons ending up in hospital. The real tragedy in all of this is that these idiots are killing innocent people by overwhelming hospital resources. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...
- logicalmonster 5y ago
  The FDA would be making a very reasonable point about Ivermectin if they weren't the barrier in place preventing people from acquiring the version of the product meant for humans in the first place. They can't just block people from acquiring normal human doses and then smugly decry people trying to acquire it through other means. There should be much stronger "Right To Try" provisions in medicine to allow people the right to try drugs to cure them of disease and for society to gain information on its effectiveness. My Body, My Choice. This is a simple risk-management decision. Ivermectin is cheap and safe in human sized doses. If Ivermectin doesn't work: that would suck, but we'd at least eliminate one potential cure and can try other things. If Ivermectin does work: great, that means this thing would be over. What the hell do we have to lose other billions in Big Pharma profits? > The real tragedy in all of this is that these idiots are killing innocent people by overwhelming hospital resources. Which is it this week: are hospitals bursting at the seams with Covid patients or Ivermectin overdoses? I can't remember anymore, not that I see any flooded hospitals anyway.
  - 15155 5y ago
    > My Body, My Choice. COVID has shown us that this adage is patently false.
    - logicalmonster 5y ago
      If not me, then who owns my body? The state? Pfizer? You?
readflaggedcomm 5y ago
Because it's the face of vaccine denialism.
alkonaut 5y ago
It’s a parasite medication for humans too. The reason it’s said that people take horse dewormer is because people literally take things labeled horse dewormer. The reason of course being that it’s easy to get and doctors won’t prescribe it so you get it over the counter. At the pet store… Large peer reviewed studies or meta analysis doesn’t show a strong effect. Some small positive effect might be there - but it’s definitely tiny compared to vaccines. Self administering a drug is rarely a good idea. But it’s perhaps understandable. However, skipping the vaccine and taking ivermectin instead is probably what’s being questioned (and rightly so).

Jochim 5y ago

I mean the FDA explains exactly why on their website[0]. Livestock are much bigger than humans meaning the medication has a much higher dosage and even if the active ingredient is the same the delivery mechanism doesn't have to be, which is why we have so many morons ending up in hospital. The real tragedy in all of this is that these idiots are killing innocent people by overwhelming hospital resources. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...

logicalmonster 5y ago
The FDA would be making a very reasonable point about Ivermectin if they weren't the barrier in place preventing people from acquiring the version of the product meant for humans in the first place. They can't just block people from acquiring normal human doses and then smugly decry people trying to acquire it through other means. There should be much stronger "Right To Try" provisions in medicine to allow people the right to try drugs to cure them of disease and for society to gain information on its effectiveness. My Body, My Choice. This is a simple risk-management decision. Ivermectin is cheap and safe in human sized doses. If Ivermectin doesn't work: that would suck, but we'd at least eliminate one potential cure and can try other things. If Ivermectin does work: great, that means this thing would be over. What the hell do we have to lose other billions in Big Pharma profits? > The real tragedy in all of this is that these idiots are killing innocent people by overwhelming hospital resources. Which is it this week: are hospitals bursting at the seams with Covid patients or Ivermectin overdoses? I can't remember anymore, not that I see any flooded hospitals anyway.
- 15155 5y ago
  > My Body, My Choice. COVID has shown us that this adage is patently false.
  - logicalmonster 5y ago
    If not me, then who owns my body? The state? Pfizer? You?

readflaggedcomm 5y ago

Because it's the face of vaccine denialism.

alkonaut 5y ago

It’s a parasite medication for humans too. The reason it’s said that people take horse dewormer is because people literally take things labeled horse dewormer. The reason of course being that it’s easy to get and doctors won’t prescribe it so you get it over the counter. At the pet store… Large peer reviewed studies or meta analysis doesn’t show a strong effect. Some small positive effect might be there - but it’s definitely tiny compared to vaccines. Self administering a drug is rarely a good idea. But it’s perhaps understandable. However, skipping the vaccine and taking ivermectin instead is probably what’s being questioned (and rightly so).