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> You don't consider better software, better service, better results, better everything to be innovation? That’s just not accurate. I agree that for a while i

by zepto 5y ago

> You don't consider better software, better service, better results, better everything to be innovation? That’s just not accurate. I agree that for a while it was true in the days of Napster, audio galaxy etc, but it isn’t anymore. But you are missing my point. Other than in improving ways to do piracy itself, piracy doesn’t lead to innovation.

matheusmoreira 5y ago
My point is piracy itself is the biggest innovation of the 21st century. We're actually going backwards because of these copyright holders. Things would be so much better if not for them. > I agree that for a while it was true in the days of Napster, audio galaxy etc, but it isn’t anymore. You gotta be kidding me. Pirate sites offer more content at much higher quality. Netflix streams "high definition" shows so thoroughly compressed even black frames have artifacts. My satellite TV streams content with so much compression it gives me motion sickness. The main difference is piracy doesn't happen out in the open anymore. You need to be invited.
- zepto 5y ago
  > Pirate sites offer more content at much higher quality. True. > Netflix streams "high definition" shows so thoroughly compressed even black frames have artifacts. My satellite TV streams content with so much compression it gives me motion sickness. Ok, but that high quality pirate content can’t actually be delivered to a large customer base over low bandwidth links like satellite. It’s a meaningless comparison since they are solving different problems. > The main difference is piracy doesn't happen out in the open anymore. You need to be invited. Ah - so it’s objectively worse than simply paying for content because it is only accessible to a small clique. Whereas with commercial services, anyone can just buy what they want. What you are describing is the exact opposite of making things more freely available. It’s a small group stealing content for their own exclusive use, and giving nothing back to society.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    > What you are describing is the exact opposite of making things more freely available. I know. That's what I meant when I said we're going backwards. Copyright enforcement drove piracy underground. It's not supposed to be like this.
    - zepto 5y ago
      It wouldn’t be piracy if there was no copyright enforcement. What you are saying is that piracy is simply failing to innovate.

by zepto 5y ago

matheusmoreira 5y ago

My point is piracy itself is the biggest innovation of the 21st century. We're actually going backwards because of these copyright holders. Things would be so much better if not for them. > I agree that for a while it was true in the days of Napster, audio galaxy etc, but it isn’t anymore. You gotta be kidding me. Pirate sites offer more content at much higher quality. Netflix streams "high definition" shows so thoroughly compressed even black frames have artifacts. My satellite TV streams content with so much compression it gives me motion sickness. The main difference is piracy doesn't happen out in the open anymore. You need to be invited.

zepto 5y ago
> Pirate sites offer more content at much higher quality. True. > Netflix streams "high definition" shows so thoroughly compressed even black frames have artifacts. My satellite TV streams content with so much compression it gives me motion sickness. Ok, but that high quality pirate content can’t actually be delivered to a large customer base over low bandwidth links like satellite. It’s a meaningless comparison since they are solving different problems. > The main difference is piracy doesn't happen out in the open anymore. You need to be invited. Ah - so it’s objectively worse than simply paying for content because it is only accessible to a small clique. Whereas with commercial services, anyone can just buy what they want. What you are describing is the exact opposite of making things more freely available. It’s a small group stealing content for their own exclusive use, and giving nothing back to society.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  > What you are describing is the exact opposite of making things more freely available. I know. That's what I meant when I said we're going backwards. Copyright enforcement drove piracy underground. It's not supposed to be like this.
  - zepto 5y ago
    It wouldn’t be piracy if there was no copyright enforcement. What you are saying is that piracy is simply failing to innovate.