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kleiba 5y ago
Interesting thought: isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? Can you even "pirate" something that is offered free (just not to you)?
- throwawayswede 5y ago
  > isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? sorry, what?
  - kleiba 5y ago
    Sorry, of course I did not mean in general but only in this specific context where the purpose is to spoof your location in order to circumvent location-based restrictions.
- peakaboo 5y ago
  No a vpn gives you an ip number in the country where the vpn provider has servers. Makes it appear as if you are accessing the internet from that country. I don't have moral issues with it whatsoever.
  - yissp 5y ago
    Morally of course I agree, I think the parent was wondering if this technically violates copyright law, though. It seems like it might if WaterBear doesn't have the right to distribute their content in your country for whatever reason.
    - thanksforfish 5y ago
      Right. Content creator: Can you distribute my content? Only in $list-of-countries though. Distributor: Sure. If the distributor permits VPNs, how are they sure they are authorized to distribute?
      - 3np 5y ago
        More likely: Content creator: Can you distribute my content everywhere? Distributor: Sure. But because of $reasons, it will only be $list-of-countries
- thanksforfish 5y ago
  Legal and moral definition of piracy vary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy Unfortunately, if you don't have permission to download then you may be committing piracy. In this case, entire countries apparently don't have permission. If the system is guessing location based on IP address, then granting permission based on that guess, then I expect their permission grant should be valid. How would a user know that they have bugs in their permission system? If you connect directly first, are told "no", then bypass the system with a VPN: You probably understand that you aren't supposed to have access. What will happen if you commit this type of piracy? I don't think there's a loss of revenue, or damages so pursuing pirates likely isn't worth it. Obligatory, I am not a lawyer.
  - 3np 5y ago
    Pretty much. Intent matters. If you connect over a VPN with the purpose of circumventing geoblocking, it could be judged equivalent to copyright infringement in many jurisdictions. If you just default to connect over VPN and weren’t aware that by doing so you now have access to content you otherwise would not be allowed to access in your area, you’re in the clear.

Interesting thought: isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? Can you even "pirate" something that is offered free (just not to you)?

throwawayswede 5y ago
> isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? sorry, what?
- kleiba 5y ago
  Sorry, of course I did not mean in general but only in this specific context where the purpose is to spoof your location in order to circumvent location-based restrictions.
peakaboo 5y ago
No a vpn gives you an ip number in the country where the vpn provider has servers. Makes it appear as if you are accessing the internet from that country. I don't have moral issues with it whatsoever.
- yissp 5y ago
  Morally of course I agree, I think the parent was wondering if this technically violates copyright law, though. It seems like it might if WaterBear doesn't have the right to distribute their content in your country for whatever reason.
  - thanksforfish 5y ago
    Right. Content creator: Can you distribute my content? Only in $list-of-countries though. Distributor: Sure. If the distributor permits VPNs, how are they sure they are authorized to distribute?
    - 3np 5y ago
      More likely: Content creator: Can you distribute my content everywhere? Distributor: Sure. But because of $reasons, it will only be $list-of-countries
thanksforfish 5y ago
Legal and moral definition of piracy vary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy Unfortunately, if you don't have permission to download then you may be committing piracy. In this case, entire countries apparently don't have permission. If the system is guessing location based on IP address, then granting permission based on that guess, then I expect their permission grant should be valid. How would a user know that they have bugs in their permission system? If you connect directly first, are told "no", then bypass the system with a VPN: You probably understand that you aren't supposed to have access. What will happen if you commit this type of piracy? I don't think there's a loss of revenue, or damages so pursuing pirates likely isn't worth it. Obligatory, I am not a lawyer.
- 3np 5y ago
  Pretty much. Intent matters. If you connect over a VPN with the purpose of circumventing geoblocking, it could be judged equivalent to copyright infringement in many jurisdictions. If you just default to connect over VPN and weren’t aware that by doing so you now have access to content you otherwise would not be allowed to access in your area, you’re in the clear.