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Geez, that's a lot of ad hominem. Did I accidentally murder your dog or something? I wasn't saying anything about what 37signals does, I was criticizing what t
by aaronsw 18y ago
Geez, that's a lot of ad hominem. Did I accidentally murder your dog or something?
I wasn't saying anything about what 37signals does, I was criticizing what they recommended. You know, in their book. That I link to in my first paragraph.
- tptacek 18y agoSo, while 37signals doesn't break it out as clearly as you did, they do in fact recommend the same closed testing that you're recommending. For instance, in their book "Getting Real", they talk about how they do closed beta testing of individual features inside of their applications to selected groups of users, just like Google Mail does. They also publicly did closed beta testing of Highrise, their most recent application. I'd be surprised to hear that they didn't quietly test Basecamp before it shipped. On the other point, I think I felt like in a discussion of whether we should be doing things this-way-or-that just because somebody said so, your resume was fair game. I think differently of that now. I'm sorry I offended you.
- NewWorldOrder 18y agoI believe that when 37signals created Basecamp it was for internal use. They built it for themselves. As time went on other small consulting firms (possibly that 37s knew) saw it and thought it was useful. From that point, Basecamp just continued to grow in popularity. When nobody knows you or your startup do you really need a closed beta??
- eugenejen 18y agoNo, he is testing Jason Calacanis's approach to PR. By attacking Aaron Swartz ad hominen, he raises his fame/notoriety in hacker community. Oh. I just forget Linus Torvalds called security people m________ting monkeys. It seems very hard to discuss issues rationally lately without calling names that based on some a priori assumptions of the opposite side.
- tptacek 18y agoHe called OpenBSD people masturbating monkeys. He called security people whores. He actually had a sympathetic audience among many security pros for that statement. The whole thing is indeed a bit shady. That doesn't make me any happier with my original comment, though.
- eugenejen 18y agoDoes this mean that the cause of hate comes from security people charges high price by hour to give people false sense of satisfactions? It seems that all people charges high price service by hours are hated in general such as attorneys and so on. How life is so unfair and I feel your pain. But Jesus Christ loves everyone who charged clients by hour and then turns over a new leaf to wash his corpse in funeral.
- tptacek 18y agoDude, I think you just wrote a Tool song!
- pius 18y agoGeez, that's a lot of ad hominem. Did I accidentally murder your dog or something? Nah, that's pretty much tptacek's commenting style, I wouldn't take it personally.