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He already said -the ruling class. The specific names aren't irrelevant since they change regularly...but the dynamic (divide and conquer) doesn't appear to.

by rnd0 5y ago

notahacker 5y ago
Sure, but as soon as you start naming names, it's pretty obvious that a lot of the people proposing alternative pronouns that don't really catch on or making claims about their workplace are little-known ordinary middle class people without any real power, and some of the people declaring "war on woke" own media empires and sit in parliaments. Which places a different complexion on the "divide and conquer"...
- angelzen 5y ago
  Occupy Wall Street died when infected with identitarians. Unions, as weak and pathetic as they are, become a whole lot more interested in pronouns, systemic racism and illegal immigration than fighting for a decent wage and decent working conditions for their paying members. Politically, there is no more discourse on behalf of the poor or working classes, only for identitarian version thereof. With the obvious effect that the shunned identities naturally don't support erst left wing policies that exclude them on identity marker basis. Wokeness is a huge win for the ruling class. Divide and conquer at its best.
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  - weswpg 5y ago
    Unions have been on the decline for decades going back to the deregulatory and anti-labor policies of Neo liberal governments and that probably has a lot more to do with the problem than pronouns
    - angelzen 5y ago
      You've got cancer and then died of pneumonia. These are both deadly.
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- jpadkins 5y ago
  It doesn't work like that. The people in power find people with an agenda that suits their agenda (woke identity politics that divide any populist movement). Then they elevate those people to places of more power or reach or status. This comes in the forms of grants, promotions, publications, and opening doors (making connections). You don't need to convince or coerce people to fit your agenda. You simply find them and elevate them.

He already said -the ruling class. The specific names aren't irrelevant since they change regularly...but the dynamic (divide and conquer) doesn't appear to.

by rnd0 5y ago

He already said -the ruling class. The specific names aren't irrelevant since they change regularly...but the dynamic (divide and conquer) doesn't appear to.

notahacker 5y ago

Sure, but as soon as you start naming names, it's pretty obvious that a lot of the people proposing alternative pronouns that don't really catch on or making claims about their workplace are little-known ordinary middle class people without any real power, and some of the people declaring "war on woke" own media empires and sit in parliaments. Which places a different complexion on the "divide and conquer"...

angelzen 5y ago
Occupy Wall Street died when infected with identitarians. Unions, as weak and pathetic as they are, become a whole lot more interested in pronouns, systemic racism and illegal immigration than fighting for a decent wage and decent working conditions for their paying members. Politically, there is no more discourse on behalf of the poor or working classes, only for identitarian version thereof. With the obvious effect that the shunned identities naturally don't support erst left wing policies that exclude them on identity marker basis. Wokeness is a huge win for the ruling class. Divide and conquer at its best.
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- weswpg 5y ago
  Unions have been on the decline for decades going back to the deregulatory and anti-labor policies of Neo liberal governments and that probably has a lot more to do with the problem than pronouns
  - angelzen 5y ago
    You've got cancer and then died of pneumonia. These are both deadly.
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jpadkins 5y ago
It doesn't work like that. The people in power find people with an agenda that suits their agenda (woke identity politics that divide any populist movement). Then they elevate those people to places of more power or reach or status. This comes in the forms of grants, promotions, publications, and opening doors (making connections). You don't need to convince or coerce people to fit your agenda. You simply find them and elevate them.