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> Still nobody found an answer why Apple did not scan iCloud for CSAM? They do.

by sbuk 5y ago

GeekyBear 5y ago
Nope. Apple prefers to keep that sort of data private, and a kiddie porn false positive is not the sort of data that should be vulnerable to misuse by anyone who issues a dragnet warrant. Google's data hordes are already widely abused today. >Google says geofence warrants make up one-quarter of all US demands https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ Another example would be that Google scans all your photos to identify the people in them and retains that data on their servers, while Apple chooses to perform those sorts of actions on your own device without uploading it to their servers.
- Lamad123 5y ago
  I keep seeing more and more of these passionate comments shilling for apple!!
  - dang 5y ago
    You've been breaking the site guidelines with comments like this. Please read the rules and follow them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Note this one: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
- snuser 5y ago
  It's all fucked up. all of it. Google, Facebook Apple, Microsoft, whatever they are a disease worse than covid
- sbuk 5y ago
  https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-icloud-photos-for-child-abuse-images/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... https://web.archive.org/web/20200119050834/https://www.apple.com/legal/child-safety/en-ww/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20200119050834/https://www.apple... Please. This information is out there. It takes 5 minutes to look for it.
simion314 5y ago
From what I read they only scan images that are attached to emails. So iCloud could be filled with CSAM.

> Still nobody found an answer why Apple did not scan iCloud for CSAM? They do.

by sbuk 5y ago

> Still nobody found an answer why Apple did not scan iCloud for CSAM? They do.

Nope. Apple prefers to keep that sort of data private, and a kiddie porn false positive is not the sort of data that should be vulnerable to misuse by anyone who issues a dragnet warrant. Google's data hordes are already widely abused today. >Google says geofence warrants make up one-quarter of all US demands https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ Another example would be that Google scans all your photos to identify the people in them and retains that data on their servers, while Apple chooses to perform those sorts of actions on your own device without uploading it to their servers.

Lamad123 5y ago
I keep seeing more and more of these passionate comments shilling for apple!!
- dang 5y ago
  You've been breaking the site guidelines with comments like this. Please read the rules and follow them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Note this one: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
snuser 5y ago
It's all fucked up. all of it. Google, Facebook Apple, Microsoft, whatever they are a disease worse than covid
sbuk 5y ago
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-icloud-photos-for-child-abuse-images/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... https://web.archive.org/web/20200119050834/https://www.apple.com/legal/child-safety/en-ww/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20200119050834/https://www.apple... Please. This information is out there. It takes 5 minutes to look for it.

simion314 5y ago

From what I read they only scan images that are attached to emails. So iCloud could be filled with CSAM.