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Not applicable. The 'wokeness' in US largely encompasses things like minorities not tolerating being denigrated, debased, harassed anymore. Not even talking abo

Not applicable. The 'wokeness' in US largely encompasses things like minorities not tolerating being denigrated, debased, harassed anymore. Not even talking about things like nudity in beaches, abortion and other bullsh*t in which US still stays back 150 years in the past in US.

m0zg 5y ago
No, it's more of a virtue signaling scheme and a "luxury belief" that brown and black people can't think for themselves, and white liberal upper middle class knows what's best for them. Such as, for example, abolishing the police in high crime lower income neighborhoods and other loony bin shit like that, which does absolutely nothing to help anyone they pretend to care for. These tend to be the same folks who would move out in an instant if black folks started moving into their neighborhood, and won't spare a dime to actually help any of them with anything. It's words, Twitter and Facebook, and little else best I can tell. Purely performative virtue signaling.
- watwut 5y ago
  I have seen quite a few blacks to advocate for what you call loony shit. The problem here is that you are making stuff up in order to build perfect demographic of your enemies.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    Anecdotes aren't data: https://search.brave.com/search?q=polls+on+abolishing+police&source=desktop https://search.brave.com/search?q=polls+on+abolishing+police...
- unity1001 5y ago
  A large part of those blacks and browns are in that woke movement. Bar the evangelist blacks in American south. Who seem to have some kind of stockholm syndrome. You dont even know what abolishing police means apparently. And yet you have strong opinions about such stuff. They want to abolish AMERICAN police and bring about European style, civil-service policing. And yeah, for that, you need to abolish the medieval-sheriff-remnant abomination that is the police concept in US.
- unity1001 5y ago
  And there is nothing wrong with 'virtue signaling': Decent, civilized behavior should be promoted, and reactionary, backwards behavior should be derided. Otherwise the society cannot find its balance, and ends up promoting reactionaries who openly declare that they want to take the society 200 years back. Like what happened in Texas about abortion, making people snitch on other people for abortion - real big brother stuff. I would take an extreme woke over the mildest conservative any day. The former doesnt want to take me to 200 years back in time.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    Performative virtue signaling, as practiced in the US is wrong IMO. It is aimed at extracting social approval out of like-minded peers without effecting any positive change. Indeed it's getting to the point where _the mere absence_ of virtue signaling behavior draws reprisals and Twitter lynch mobs. Virtue under the barrel of a gun is not virtue at all. Moreover, negative change is occurring: murders are up nationwide last year due to "abolishing police" in lower income neighborhoods and releasing repeat criminals from jail "on their own recognizance", a dozen times in a row. Black on black violence is a topic that can't even be raised on the left, and yet it affects both blacks and whites disproportionately. Why is that? Because it needs heavy police enforcement to combat it. A gangbanger couldn't care less about your "social worker". Here's the most liberal city in the United States, Washington DC: https://twitter.com/DCPoliceUnion/status/1433950562505142272 https://twitter.com/DCPoliceUnion/status/1433950562505142272. If this is progress, I don't want it.

m0zg 5y ago

No, it's more of a virtue signaling scheme and a "luxury belief" that brown and black people can't think for themselves, and white liberal upper middle class knows what's best for them. Such as, for example, abolishing the police in high crime lower income neighborhoods and other loony bin shit like that, which does absolutely nothing to help anyone they pretend to care for. These tend to be the same folks who would move out in an instant if black folks started moving into their neighborhood, and won't spare a dime to actually help any of them with anything. It's words, Twitter and Facebook, and little else best I can tell. Purely performative virtue signaling.

watwut 5y ago
I have seen quite a few blacks to advocate for what you call loony shit. The problem here is that you are making stuff up in order to build perfect demographic of your enemies.
- m0zg 5y ago
  Anecdotes aren't data: https://search.brave.com/search?q=polls+on+abolishing+police&source=desktop https://search.brave.com/search?q=polls+on+abolishing+police...
unity1001 5y ago
A large part of those blacks and browns are in that woke movement. Bar the evangelist blacks in American south. Who seem to have some kind of stockholm syndrome. You dont even know what abolishing police means apparently. And yet you have strong opinions about such stuff. They want to abolish AMERICAN police and bring about European style, civil-service policing. And yeah, for that, you need to abolish the medieval-sheriff-remnant abomination that is the police concept in US.
unity1001 5y ago
And there is nothing wrong with 'virtue signaling': Decent, civilized behavior should be promoted, and reactionary, backwards behavior should be derided. Otherwise the society cannot find its balance, and ends up promoting reactionaries who openly declare that they want to take the society 200 years back. Like what happened in Texas about abortion, making people snitch on other people for abortion - real big brother stuff. I would take an extreme woke over the mildest conservative any day. The former doesnt want to take me to 200 years back in time.
- m0zg 5y ago
  Performative virtue signaling, as practiced in the US is wrong IMO. It is aimed at extracting social approval out of like-minded peers without effecting any positive change. Indeed it's getting to the point where _the mere absence_ of virtue signaling behavior draws reprisals and Twitter lynch mobs. Virtue under the barrel of a gun is not virtue at all. Moreover, negative change is occurring: murders are up nationwide last year due to "abolishing police" in lower income neighborhoods and releasing repeat criminals from jail "on their own recognizance", a dozen times in a row. Black on black violence is a topic that can't even be raised on the left, and yet it affects both blacks and whites disproportionately. Why is that? Because it needs heavy police enforcement to combat it. A gangbanger couldn't care less about your "social worker". Here's the most liberal city in the United States, Washington DC: https://twitter.com/DCPoliceUnion/status/1433950562505142272 https://twitter.com/DCPoliceUnion/status/1433950562505142272. If this is progress, I don't want it.