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> Why would young people take the vaccine if natural immunity protects better? 1. not everyone has natural immunity. 2. many people don't know whether they wer
by bryan0 5y ago
> Why would young people take the vaccine if natural immunity protects better?
1. not everyone has natural immunity.
2. many people don't know whether they were actually infected with Covid or not.
3. It's not always better. (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-pr...)
4. because if natural immunity gets you to x% protected there is no downside to taking a vaccine which gets you to (x+y)% protected.
> Young people aren't at risk anyway.
This is actually completely false. Young people are at less risk. Healthy young people are hospitalized and die of Covid just at a much lower rate. Not only that but they can spread it to older people that are at higher risk.
> And the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of Delta
Correct. It doesnt stop it (it's now endemic), but it lowers the transmission rate.
> This is wrong. Correct would be "are less likely than unvaccinated persons without natural immunity to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others"
Nope. Whether naturally infected or not, vaccinated makes you less likely to get Covid. (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-pr...)
> Even more baffling is how everyone seems to ignore we have a cure that works really well!
It's not a cure, monoclonal antibodies are a great treatment that is not ignored, but it's better not to get sick in the first place!
from your article: "patients at high risk for disease progression, hospitalizations and emergency room visits occurred in 3% of casirivimab and imdevimab-treated patients on average compared to 9% in placebo-treated patients."
That is not a cure. It is a good treatment to take if you need it.
- vimy 5y ago> This is actually completely false. Young people are at less risk. Healthy young people are hospitalized and die of Covid just at a much lower rate. Not only that but they can spread it to older people that are at higher risk. The risk is slightly higher than the flu so virtually non-existent. -> https://twitter.com/sentientist/status/1433575276009512961 https://twitter.com/sentientist/status/1433575276009512961 And we have a treatment now to help those older people. > Nope. Whether naturally infected or not, vaccinated makes you less likely to get Covid. The Israel study tells us otherwise. > It's not a cure, monoclonal antibodies are a great treatment that is not ignored, but it's better not to get sick in the first place! It is ignored by the press and politicians. They keep telling us the only way out is vaccines. Which is wrong.
- bryan0 5y ago> The Israel study tells us otherwise. you should re-read it. >The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated. https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on... > The risk is slightly higher than the flu so virtually non-existent. Flu kills hundreds of children a year. Tell one of their parents that the risk is "non-existent". That's why flu vaccine is recommended for most. > CDC recommends everyone 6 months and older get an annual flu vaccine, especially children who are younger than 5 years of age or children of any age who have a high risk medical condition, because they are more likely to develop serious flu complications that can lead to hospitalization and death. Getting vaccinated has been shown to reduce flu illnesses, doctor’s visits, missed school days, and reduce the risk of flu-related hospitalization and death in children. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatr...
- josephcsible 5y ago> The risk is slightly higher than the flu so virtually non-existent. -> https://twitter.com/sentientist/status/1433575276009512961 https://twitter.com/sentientist/status/1433575276009512961 That sounds to me like the risk in young people is lower than the flu. The CDC also said the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20210820184423/https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20210820184423/https://www.cdc.g... > For young children, especially children younger than 5 years old, the risk of serious complications is higher for flu compared with COVID-19.
- bryan0 5y agoCovid was considered lower risk than flu for kids until delta. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/delta-variant-more-dangerous-children-growing-number-kids-are-very-n1276035 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/delta-variant-mor...