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I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job in

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

monkeybutton 5y ago
Maybe that was for the better? Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
codetrotter 5y ago
> I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old) Sounds like they did you a favor. Who’d want to work for people like that?
- robocat 5y ago
  > Who’d want to work for people like that Recruiters, HR and interviewers often are nothing like the culture of the people you will end up working with. Treat everything as a potential signal, but take care not to mistake noise for signal. Also recruitment is often about reducing false positives (avoiding bad hires), at the cost of a high number of false negatives (failing to employ suitable candidates). Try not to take it personally when they give you a no for an obviously bad reason?!
  - MrDresden 5y ago
    This isn't universal, but the best places have peers do some or most of the interviewing. So only interacting with HR/management would be a red flag for me.
- oceanghost 5y ago
  I did. The company I worked for was infinitely worse (literal Sociopathic management). The pay was better, it was closer to home, and the work was more stable. If I had to guess-- I'd say the existing iOS guy wanted a friend to be hired so he tanked me.
blacksmith_tb 5y ago
That's absurd, but at least it saved you from having to work in an environment that valued appearance over substance?
quickthrower2 5y ago
You only need one job so yeah you will get rejected by trick question interviews but it shouldn’t stop you getting work
hsuduebc2 5y ago
This is absurd. I failed interview because I didn't know what new feature was added at Java 8 which was released ten years ago.
Austin_Conlon 5y ago
Out of curiosity, what was the Xcode quirk?
bitwize 5y ago
TBH, as an Apple dev it's really your responsibility to be up on the latest and greatest platforms and dev tools. Apple broke development on OS X 10.3 in order to have a new C++ ABI ready for 10.4. Want to compile programs for 10.3? You need to use Xcode on 10.4 to do that. You don't have 10.4 yet? What kind of loser are you?

monkeybutton 5y ago

Maybe that was for the better? Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

codetrotter 5y ago

> I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old) Sounds like they did you a favor. Who’d want to work for people like that?

robocat 5y ago
> Who’d want to work for people like that Recruiters, HR and interviewers often are nothing like the culture of the people you will end up working with. Treat everything as a potential signal, but take care not to mistake noise for signal. Also recruitment is often about reducing false positives (avoiding bad hires), at the cost of a high number of false negatives (failing to employ suitable candidates). Try not to take it personally when they give you a no for an obviously bad reason?!
- MrDresden 5y ago
  This isn't universal, but the best places have peers do some or most of the interviewing. So only interacting with HR/management would be a red flag for me.
oceanghost 5y ago
I did. The company I worked for was infinitely worse (literal Sociopathic management). The pay was better, it was closer to home, and the work was more stable. If I had to guess-- I'd say the existing iOS guy wanted a friend to be hired so he tanked me.

blacksmith_tb 5y ago

That's absurd, but at least it saved you from having to work in an environment that valued appearance over substance?

quickthrower2 5y ago

You only need one job so yeah you will get rejected by trick question interviews but it shouldn’t stop you getting work

hsuduebc2 5y ago

This is absurd. I failed interview because I didn't know what new feature was added at Java 8 which was released ten years ago.

Austin_Conlon 5y ago

Out of curiosity, what was the Xcode quirk?

bitwize 5y ago

TBH, as an Apple dev it's really your responsibility to be up on the latest and greatest platforms and dev tools. Apple broke development on OS X 10.3 in order to have a new C++ ABI ready for 10.4. Want to compile programs for 10.3? You need to use Xcode on 10.4 to do that. You don't have 10.4 yet? What kind of loser are you?