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They also run the only decent, independent search engine that has _its own_, _uncensored_ index. DDG was perceptibly worse than Google, but Brave Search is abou

by m0zg 5y ago

They also run the only decent, independent search engine that has _its own_, _uncensored_ index. DDG was perceptibly worse than Google, but Brave Search is about on par, and the latency seems to be better as well. I maybe have to go to Google once or twice a month now instead of several times a day DDG would require. I know a bit about Google search, and frankly I'm stunned by what Brave was able to pull off here. I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher, and I need one to be able to fully and unambiguously isolate my work and personal accounts. What's particularly grating is that they already have profile support. Just not the UX to switch the profiles without pain.

etc-hosts 5y ago
> I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/ https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/
- commoner 5y ago
  Alternatively, Profile Switcher for Firefox provides a Chrome-like interface: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switcher/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc...
  - happymellon 5y ago
    I couldn't tell from the link, but does it let me run two profiles side by side? This is the only thing that makes FF awkward for me when not using a Mac.
    - tombrossman 5y ago
      You can bookmark about:profiles and click "Launch profile in new browser" under each profile to open it in a new Firefox window. If you are using GNOME desktop you can also try this to integrate the profiles into the launcher. I wrote it when still using Ubuntu but I'm on Fedora now and it's the exact same steps: https://www.tombrossman.com/blog/2020/launch-firefox-profiles-directly-from-the-ubuntu-dash/ https://www.tombrossman.com/blog/2020/launch-firefox-profile...
      - happymellon 5y ago
        this would fall under the "awkward" way of changing profiles.
    - commoner 5y ago
      Yes. With the extension, you can launch any other profile and a new window under that profile will be opened. There is no limit to the number of profiles that can be simultaneously active. The extension menu also lets you add, remove, and edit profiles.
      - happymellon 5y ago
        Thank you, I'm going to add this.
- happymellon 5y ago
  Multi-firefox is great, but is unfortunately Mac only.
- oshanz 5y ago
  Isn't the containers does the same job? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
  - m0zg 5y ago
    Does not isolate logins/passwords. A requirement for what I need it to do.
klipklop 5y ago
Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.
- m0zg 5y ago
  The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions "marriage". FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. That's sorta how democracy works. People get to have different opinions and then duke it out by voting. The authoritarian left can't have that, you must prostrate yourself before the one true dogma completely.
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    Any mention of Eich gets downvoted to hell, it's part of the "cancelling". Parent is 100% correct.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions “marriage”. Insofar as he was opposed by “the Left”, it was for his political actions in opposition to equal rights. The religious basis of that action was probably important to Eich, but it was immaterial to the opposition. > FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. Good for you. > That’s sorta how democracy works. In a liberal (in the classical, Enlightment-derived sense, not either of the narrower senses it is used for factional positions within the US political system) democracy, you are absolutely permitted to have a problem with, and (peacably) take action based on such a problem, with unwelcome political actions, including actual or threatened refusal to participate in economic exchanges with the perpetrator.
    - m0zg 5y ago
      This kind of thinking can go quite far if taken to its logical conclusion. The question therefore is, do _you_ want to live in a world where everyone is fighting everyone else over the most irrelevant of actions or even wrongthink? I know I don't. I much prefer to be persuaded to vote for or against something than have to state my opinions under the barrel of a proverbial gun. After a free and fair election, I accept the results and move on, even if things do not go my way. Seems more civilized and less painful than all known alternatives.
mr_toad 5y ago
These days Google just takes you to the site with the most ads. The quality of the search results has nosedived in the last ten years.
- PostThisTooFast 5y ago
  And they took away the ability to block specific sites from search results, so you're forced to wade through all the search-term-harvesting spam sites. The best example is the ones that simply republish StackOverflow content. Screen upon screen of them. Oh yeah, and Google got rid of the "+" sign that used to let you require the presence of a word in results, allegedly because of their "Google Plus" crap. Now that that's dead and gone, did they restore the "+" operator? Nope. Now you have to discover (and bother with) the "allintext:" prefix.
- m0zg 5y ago
  Not just "today". In late 00s folks at Microsoft Bing noticed that every time they'd release relevance improvements, Google within a couple of days would boost its search relevance just enough to stay a pace ahead. The running theory at MS was that they had a lot of gas in the tank relevance-wise, but artificially hobbled it, so that it's just above Bing's. Why? Because fewer people will click on the ads if the results are _too_ relevant. They'll click on the links instead.

by m0zg 5y ago

etc-hosts 5y ago

> I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/ https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/

commoner 5y ago
Alternatively, Profile Switcher for Firefox provides a Chrome-like interface: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switcher/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc...
- happymellon 5y ago
  I couldn't tell from the link, but does it let me run two profiles side by side? This is the only thing that makes FF awkward for me when not using a Mac.
  - tombrossman 5y ago
    You can bookmark about:profiles and click "Launch profile in new browser" under each profile to open it in a new Firefox window. If you are using GNOME desktop you can also try this to integrate the profiles into the launcher. I wrote it when still using Ubuntu but I'm on Fedora now and it's the exact same steps: https://www.tombrossman.com/blog/2020/launch-firefox-profiles-directly-from-the-ubuntu-dash/ https://www.tombrossman.com/blog/2020/launch-firefox-profile...
    - happymellon 5y ago
      this would fall under the "awkward" way of changing profiles.
  - commoner 5y ago
    Yes. With the extension, you can launch any other profile and a new window under that profile will be opened. There is no limit to the number of profiles that can be simultaneously active. The extension menu also lets you add, remove, and edit profiles.
    - happymellon 5y ago
      Thank you, I'm going to add this.
happymellon 5y ago
Multi-firefox is great, but is unfortunately Mac only.
oshanz 5y ago
Isn't the containers does the same job? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
- m0zg 5y ago
  Does not isolate logins/passwords. A requirement for what I need it to do.

klipklop 5y ago

Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.

m0zg 5y ago
The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions "marriage". FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. That's sorta how democracy works. People get to have different opinions and then duke it out by voting. The authoritarian left can't have that, you must prostrate yourself before the one true dogma completely.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  Any mention of Eich gets downvoted to hell, it's part of the "cancelling". Parent is 100% correct.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions “marriage”. Insofar as he was opposed by “the Left”, it was for his political actions in opposition to equal rights. The religious basis of that action was probably important to Eich, but it was immaterial to the opposition. > FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. Good for you. > That’s sorta how democracy works. In a liberal (in the classical, Enlightment-derived sense, not either of the narrower senses it is used for factional positions within the US political system) democracy, you are absolutely permitted to have a problem with, and (peacably) take action based on such a problem, with unwelcome political actions, including actual or threatened refusal to participate in economic exchanges with the perpetrator.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    This kind of thinking can go quite far if taken to its logical conclusion. The question therefore is, do _you_ want to live in a world where everyone is fighting everyone else over the most irrelevant of actions or even wrongthink? I know I don't. I much prefer to be persuaded to vote for or against something than have to state my opinions under the barrel of a proverbial gun. After a free and fair election, I accept the results and move on, even if things do not go my way. Seems more civilized and less painful than all known alternatives.

mr_toad 5y ago

These days Google just takes you to the site with the most ads. The quality of the search results has nosedived in the last ten years.

PostThisTooFast 5y ago
And they took away the ability to block specific sites from search results, so you're forced to wade through all the search-term-harvesting spam sites. The best example is the ones that simply republish StackOverflow content. Screen upon screen of them. Oh yeah, and Google got rid of the "+" sign that used to let you require the presence of a word in results, allegedly because of their "Google Plus" crap. Now that that's dead and gone, did they restore the "+" operator? Nope. Now you have to discover (and bother with) the "allintext:" prefix.
m0zg 5y ago
Not just "today". In late 00s folks at Microsoft Bing noticed that every time they'd release relevance improvements, Google within a couple of days would boost its search relevance just enough to stay a pace ahead. The running theory at MS was that they had a lot of gas in the tank relevance-wise, but artificially hobbled it, so that it's just above Bing's. Why? Because fewer people will click on the ads if the results are _too_ relevant. They'll click on the links instead.