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Just declare phentanyl a schedule 1 drug. There, fixed that for ya. OK not, but that is the required first step.

quickthrowman 5y ago
How will that help? The fentanyl in street ‘heroin’ is manufactured in China (and maybe Mexico) and smuggled into the US, it isn’t fentanyl from Roche or Lilly being diverted to the black market.
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  You could take a step towards hard reduction and reduce penalties for pure morphine. As in you get caught with a kilo of pure morphine go to jail for 6 months. Caught with a gram of fentanyl, 10 years in prison.
  - quickthrowman 5y ago
    The consequences for drug crimes do not matter to the people who sell them, the potential profits are too big. You can make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year selling cocaine or heroin to addicts. The consequences do not deter drug sales, the evidence being that drugs are widely available. The profit margins are too big. Fentanyl probably has a 95-99% net profit margin, that’s why people kill each other over drugs.
    - Gibbon1 5y ago
      I just remember what happened when California decriminalized pot back in 1975. Didn't take long for ordinary pot dealers to stop selling hash. Also they stopped selling anything but buds. So based on that I'm pretty sure if you reduced penalties for high quality morphine and slammed people selling Fentanyl, dealers wouldn't touch Fentanyl.
jimbob45 5y ago
>Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence That describes Fentanyl very well. Compare that to... >Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse There are clear uses for Fentanyl. However, you could argue that we could phase out use of Fentanyl for any procedure in favor of other drugs and I wouldn't be opposed (which would shift it up to Schedule 1).
- phkahler 5y ago
  Thanks for the definitions. So schedule II. There is no use for it that can't readily be handled by something less dangerous and addictive. Just get it off the (legal) market.
quattrofan 5y ago
War on Drugs works perfectly right? Muppet.

How will that help? The fentanyl in street ‘heroin’ is manufactured in China (and maybe Mexico) and smuggled into the US, it isn’t fentanyl from Roche or Lilly being diverted to the black market.

Gibbon1 5y ago
You could take a step towards hard reduction and reduce penalties for pure morphine. As in you get caught with a kilo of pure morphine go to jail for 6 months. Caught with a gram of fentanyl, 10 years in prison.
- quickthrowman 5y ago
  The consequences for drug crimes do not matter to the people who sell them, the potential profits are too big. You can make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year selling cocaine or heroin to addicts. The consequences do not deter drug sales, the evidence being that drugs are widely available. The profit margins are too big. Fentanyl probably has a 95-99% net profit margin, that’s why people kill each other over drugs.
  - Gibbon1 5y ago
    I just remember what happened when California decriminalized pot back in 1975. Didn't take long for ordinary pot dealers to stop selling hash. Also they stopped selling anything but buds. So based on that I'm pretty sure if you reduced penalties for high quality morphine and slammed people selling Fentanyl, dealers wouldn't touch Fentanyl.

jimbob45 5y ago

>Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence That describes Fentanyl very well. Compare that to... >Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse There are clear uses for Fentanyl. However, you could argue that we could phase out use of Fentanyl for any procedure in favor of other drugs and I wouldn't be opposed (which would shift it up to Schedule 1).

phkahler 5y ago
Thanks for the definitions. So schedule II. There is no use for it that can't readily be handled by something less dangerous and addictive. Just get it off the (legal) market.

quattrofan 5y ago

War on Drugs works perfectly right? Muppet.