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In a fairly liberal area of PA I saw a manager of a Walgreens very aggressively (not physically) confront a shoplifter and yell out to never come to the store a

by sfasf 5y ago

In a fairly liberal area of PA I saw a manager of a Walgreens very aggressively (not physically) confront a shoplifter and yell out to never come to the store again. The punk tried to respond, but ultimately cowered to the anger of the manager. In TX they'd be more intimidating, I'm sure. Unless corporate bans guns.

amznthrwaway 5y ago
There is absolutely no way that corporate would allow employees shooting people to defend property. The resulting lawsuits would be orders of magnitude more expensive for the company than the lost goods, and “there was a shooting at walgreens” is not a headline that Walgreens wants to see.
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unexpected 5y ago
sorry, but in Texas, big box retailers do not use armed staff. Target, Wal Mart, CVS, Walgreens, Best Buy - I have never, ever seen a worker with a gun. As a life-long Texan, this sounds ridiculous to me. A Wal Mart employee is more intimidating, simply because they're Texan? This is not the 1850's.
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- kook_throwaway 5y ago
  > box retailers do not use armed staff. Target, Wal Mart, CVS, Walgreens, Best Buy - I have never, ever seen a worker with a gun It wouldn't be the corporation arming the staff, it would be the staff arming themselves via a CCW/CHL. The first letter states 'concealed', so by definition you shouldn't see it. >A Wal Mart employee is more intimidating, simply because they're Texan Its less about any individual employee, and more about the general culture and nature of crime in the two areas. If I were a criminal in Texas, I would undoubtedly prefer crimes with less chance of confrontation.
  - learc83 5y ago
    That vast majority of retail chains would fire an employee who stopped a shoplifter with a firearm. When I worked at Best Buy, loss prevention was very clearly instructed that using force to stop a shoplifter would get you fired.
    - hattmall 5y ago
      Yeah in the areas I'm in where most stores have armed personnel they aren't worried about shoplifting.
- cdot2 5y ago
  You probably walk by people carrying guns every day and never notice
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Even in the ultra-liberal Bay Area my Walgreens, Target and Best Buy employ armed security. I find it doubtful that Texas of all places doesn’t have armed security. (Oddly I’ve only seen unarmed, tired looking security in CVS. Perhaps they’re too cheap to pay for armed gaurds.)
  - learc83 5y ago
    The only time I’ve seen an armed guard at a retail store in the southeast is when they have off duty cops late night at very high crime locations. It is extremely uncommon here for a Target or Best Buy to regularly employee armed security.
    - hattmall 5y ago
      Most everywhere in Atlanta has armed security, CVS included. It's not ever really geared at shoplifters though, as a lot of people seem to forget that shoplifting isn't really the biggest crime you can do in a store.
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      - learc83 5y ago
        I don’t think it’s most everywhere in Atlanta because I lived there until 2 years ago (I still visit regularly), and it wasn’t the norm anywhere I regularly went. Atlanta is a big place, so I’m sure there’s room for variation.
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    Maybe there is somewhere in Texas where those stores employ armed security. I've never heard of it nor been to one. I think armed security is more a function of crime than of local sentiment towards guns.
  - patmcc 5y ago
    Guards/security in Walgreens and Target carry firearms? Really? That boggles my mind (Canadian).
ChefboyOG 5y ago
Texas is a big place, and as far as I'm aware, doesn't make it a policy to train individuals to be vigilantes. If your anecdote proves anything, it is the relative safety of that liberal area of PA. The fact that a manager of a Walgreens was comfortable confronting a criminal without real consequences speaks to the level of danger they were in. If you've spent time in any rougher areas of Texas (I have), you'd agree that physically confronting a criminal over petty theft, as a store manager, carries a huge risk of violent escalation—something you'd probably want to avoid in a city with a higher murder rate.

by sfasf 5y ago

amznthrwaway 5y ago

There is absolutely no way that corporate would allow employees shooting people to defend property. The resulting lawsuits would be orders of magnitude more expensive for the company than the lost goods, and “there was a shooting at walgreens” is not a headline that Walgreens wants to see.

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unexpected 5y ago

sorry, but in Texas, big box retailers do not use armed staff. Target, Wal Mart, CVS, Walgreens, Best Buy - I have never, ever seen a worker with a gun. As a life-long Texan, this sounds ridiculous to me. A Wal Mart employee is more intimidating, simply because they're Texan? This is not the 1850's.

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kook_throwaway 5y ago
> box retailers do not use armed staff. Target, Wal Mart, CVS, Walgreens, Best Buy - I have never, ever seen a worker with a gun It wouldn't be the corporation arming the staff, it would be the staff arming themselves via a CCW/CHL. The first letter states 'concealed', so by definition you shouldn't see it. >A Wal Mart employee is more intimidating, simply because they're Texan Its less about any individual employee, and more about the general culture and nature of crime in the two areas. If I were a criminal in Texas, I would undoubtedly prefer crimes with less chance of confrontation.
- learc83 5y ago
  That vast majority of retail chains would fire an employee who stopped a shoplifter with a firearm. When I worked at Best Buy, loss prevention was very clearly instructed that using force to stop a shoplifter would get you fired.
  - hattmall 5y ago
    Yeah in the areas I'm in where most stores have armed personnel they aren't worried about shoplifting.
cdot2 5y ago
You probably walk by people carrying guns every day and never notice
jdavis703 5y ago
Even in the ultra-liberal Bay Area my Walgreens, Target and Best Buy employ armed security. I find it doubtful that Texas of all places doesn’t have armed security. (Oddly I’ve only seen unarmed, tired looking security in CVS. Perhaps they’re too cheap to pay for armed gaurds.)
- learc83 5y ago
  The only time I’ve seen an armed guard at a retail store in the southeast is when they have off duty cops late night at very high crime locations. It is extremely uncommon here for a Target or Best Buy to regularly employee armed security.
  - hattmall 5y ago
    Most everywhere in Atlanta has armed security, CVS included. It's not ever really geared at shoplifters though, as a lot of people seem to forget that shoplifting isn't really the biggest crime you can do in a store.
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    - learc83 5y ago
      I don’t think it’s most everywhere in Atlanta because I lived there until 2 years ago (I still visit regularly), and it wasn’t the norm anywhere I regularly went. Atlanta is a big place, so I’m sure there’s room for variation.
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  Maybe there is somewhere in Texas where those stores employ armed security. I've never heard of it nor been to one. I think armed security is more a function of crime than of local sentiment towards guns.
- patmcc 5y ago
  Guards/security in Walgreens and Target carry firearms? Really? That boggles my mind (Canadian).

ChefboyOG 5y ago

Texas is a big place, and as far as I'm aware, doesn't make it a policy to train individuals to be vigilantes. If your anecdote proves anything, it is the relative safety of that liberal area of PA. The fact that a manager of a Walgreens was comfortable confronting a criminal without real consequences speaks to the level of danger they were in. If you've spent time in any rougher areas of Texas (I have), you'd agree that physically confronting a criminal over petty theft, as a store manager, carries a huge risk of violent escalation—something you'd probably want to avoid in a city with a higher murder rate.