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I highly doubt the devs themselves run microsoft. I could be wrong but theres probably a manager or two in there as well. Maybe I'm stuck in the past, but I was

I highly doubt the devs themselves run microsoft. I could be wrong but theres probably a manager or two in there as well. Maybe I'm stuck in the past, but I was under the impression that devs build the thing, others decide what it is thats built. If that is the case, then I personally wouldn't call a dev 'incompetant' because of a decision not made by them. Of course you could say they should stand up against this, but again, whilst theres this hostility towards other devs, why are you going to risk not being able to put food on the table for someone on the internet who thinks your an idiot? (As an aside, the analogy doesn't really stretch that far since developers are hired by companies whereas mechanics are paid directly by customers. Perhaps car designers would be a better fit here, but again, other car designers would be quick to point out the problems with your complaints, but thats by the by)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> Of course you could say they should stand up against this, but again, whilst theres this hostility towards other devs, why are you going to risk not being able to put food on the table for someone on the internet who thinks your an idiot? Very few developers are in the position of starving if they refuse to implement terrible ideas. If they are in that position, fine, but at least feel an appropriate amount of shame for the garbage you're making. > Perhaps car designers would be a better fit here, but again, other car designers would be quick to point out the problems with your complaints, but thats by the by I think the car designer version supports what I'm saying: Tesla wants to replace the steering wheel with a yoke and people are rightly criticizing them for it.
- ed_elliott_asc 5y ago
  I’m a contractor working for a consultancy who is working for a tobacco company, I was told it would be a retail client and I feel bad, not bad enough to quit immediately as i do genuinely need the money right now but I’ll leave when I can. (I tried passive aggressively quitting by insisting they put my day rate up expecting them to say no but they did)
throwaway675309 5y ago
All things aside, I really doubt that engineers working on critical infrastructure of one of the most popular OS for Microsoft couldn't INSTANTLY get another dev job literally almost anywhere else.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

> Of course you could say they should stand up against this, but again, whilst theres this hostility towards other devs, why are you going to risk not being able to put food on the table for someone on the internet who thinks your an idiot? Very few developers are in the position of starving if they refuse to implement terrible ideas. If they are in that position, fine, but at least feel an appropriate amount of shame for the garbage you're making. > Perhaps car designers would be a better fit here, but again, other car designers would be quick to point out the problems with your complaints, but thats by the by I think the car designer version supports what I'm saying: Tesla wants to replace the steering wheel with a yoke and people are rightly criticizing them for it.

ed_elliott_asc 5y ago
I’m a contractor working for a consultancy who is working for a tobacco company, I was told it would be a retail client and I feel bad, not bad enough to quit immediately as i do genuinely need the money right now but I’ll leave when I can. (I tried passive aggressively quitting by insisting they put my day rate up expecting them to say no but they did)

throwaway675309 5y ago

All things aside, I really doubt that engineers working on critical infrastructure of one of the most popular OS for Microsoft couldn't INSTANTLY get another dev job literally almost anywhere else.