yes, and there is the implicit APL way of iterating. the point is to recognize that they are all instances of the same thing i'm not talking about java. i'm

yes, and there is the implicit APL way of iterating. the point is to recognize that they are all instances of the same thing i'm not talking about java. i'm talking about structures -- problems, their domains, and the machinations that can be used to solve them, independent of any language or implementation