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> Who else is doing better? I think this is the part that far, far too many people are ignoring. Do I, personally, think this is a good thing for Apple to add
by danaris 5y ago
> Who else is doing better?
I think this is the part that far, far too many people are ignoring.
Do I, personally, think this is a good thing for Apple to add and do? Ehh....not at all sure. I do have concerns about both the precedent set by it doing the scanning on everyone's iPhones, and the potential technical issues I've seen raised about the actual functioning of the system.
But seriously, *who is doing better*??
Firstly: Is there anyone out there who has a better, more user-respectful method of scanning for CSAM? A method that doesn't essentially say "as soon as you give us any access to your photos, we will use them for any purpose we deem worthwhile to us"? Because despite all the brouhaha, that is absolutely not the attitude Apple has taken in this. They have made abundantly clear that they have no intention of ever using systems of this nature for anything other than scanning for CSAM.
And secondly: Even if Apple implemented this today, exactly the way it's been described, is there anyone who has a better track record on user privacy? Is there any device or OS manufacturer that has openly expressed and followed through on a commitment to protecting users' data?
I'm not aware of any.
- poetaster 5y agoMaybe librem? Haven't audited yet but I believe they are more privacy centric by far.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago> They have made abundantly clear that they have no intention of ever using systems of this nature for anything other than scanning for CSAM. Then they're either lying or delusional; creating the capability guarantees that someone will pass a law forcing them to use it in other ways.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI agree completely. In military parlance it's called "softening the blow". People who say "this is a slippery slope fallacy" simply aren't paying attention. Look at Europe and Australia passing all kinds of laws to have social media spying on everyone. It can happen. In the USA Texas just passed a law to spy on women who are getting abortion and trying to limit free speech about it in an attempt to push most of the policing off to private citizens like in Handmaid's Tale. It's insane that people can't see threats on democracy and liberty from all these angles.
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- stjohnswarts 5y agoGoogle is doing better as they are not actively scanning my phone for CSAM data (and eventually other data) as a USA policing agent without a warrant. That's what google is doing better. As is windows. They don't scan for material on your phone either. If you have something to prove that they do scan for illegal stuff for reporting to police forces without a warrant then please show us.
- owlbite 5y agoNo, they're just uploading it to their servers, scanning it to form a comprehensive profile of you and selling the results to the highest bidder.
- kook_throwaway 5y agoI've never signed into google, are they really uploading my pictures to their servers?