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Completely agree. Personally, I've decided not to buy a font anymore if it doesn't have a "Universal" license that encompasses all uses at once. I want to be

Completely agree. Personally, I've decided not to buy a font anymore if it doesn't have a "Universal" license that encompasses all uses at once. I want to be able to use the font however I see fit and not feel FOMO'd in buying a Desktop+Web license because what if I ever want to use it on the web might as well get the discount now. Wait now I can't use it in an app ! Damn. Example: DJR licensing is awesome [1] [1] https://djr.com/license https://djr.com/license

rocqua 5y ago
It looks to me like their licenses still have limits on monthly page-views. Not an option of "I get to use the font whenenver I want wherever I want".
- JustFinishedBSG 5y ago
  True, but that's the best compromise to me next to open-source / ofl fonts (because let's not forget that fonts are software). I'm OK with paying for a level of use as long as it's generous and I'm not limited completely arbitrarily. You'd be surprised by the number of foundries that explicitly forbid sub setting of the fonts (because that makes you an evil hacker I guess?), so you're not allowed to only use Latin on your website, gotta load the whole fucking thing. The font has weird kerning and you want to fix it? Yeah, not sorry not allowed either. The restrictions in font licenses are completely ridiculous.
  - netr0ute 5y ago
    On my website, I can't measure exactly how many page views there are because there are no tracking scripts or other ways to discern between bots and humans. That means any font that has a page view limitation is a complete non-starter for me. Therefore, it seems like OFL is the only "reasonable" option other than an unlimited font license.
    - JustFinishedBSG 5y ago
      Fortunately page views are based on the honor system. So you can use the fonts as long as its in good faith ... But there are so many good OFL or free fonts nowadays that it's not a problem anyway.
      - netr0ute 5y ago
        What happens if my website gets really popular and nobody's there checking the analytics? Then that's a problem unless it's perpetually babysat all because of a font.
        pessimizer 5y ago
        The font designer certainly isn't checking your analytics if you aren't. I assume that's the reason for the honor system.
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dna_polymerase 5y ago
Also worth mentioning: https://mbtype.com/ https://mbtype.com/ by Matthew Butterick of practicaltypography.com fame offers a really permissive license for his fonts: https://mbtype.com/license/ https://mbtype.com/license/ .
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rocqua 5y ago

It looks to me like their licenses still have limits on monthly page-views. Not an option of "I get to use the font whenenver I want wherever I want".

JustFinishedBSG 5y ago
True, but that's the best compromise to me next to open-source / ofl fonts (because let's not forget that fonts are software). I'm OK with paying for a level of use as long as it's generous and I'm not limited completely arbitrarily. You'd be surprised by the number of foundries that explicitly forbid sub setting of the fonts (because that makes you an evil hacker I guess?), so you're not allowed to only use Latin on your website, gotta load the whole fucking thing. The font has weird kerning and you want to fix it? Yeah, not sorry not allowed either. The restrictions in font licenses are completely ridiculous.
- netr0ute 5y ago
  On my website, I can't measure exactly how many page views there are because there are no tracking scripts or other ways to discern between bots and humans. That means any font that has a page view limitation is a complete non-starter for me. Therefore, it seems like OFL is the only "reasonable" option other than an unlimited font license.
  - JustFinishedBSG 5y ago
    Fortunately page views are based on the honor system. So you can use the fonts as long as its in good faith ... But there are so many good OFL or free fonts nowadays that it's not a problem anyway.
    - netr0ute 5y ago
      What happens if my website gets really popular and nobody's there checking the analytics? Then that's a problem unless it's perpetually babysat all because of a font.
      - pessimizer 5y ago
        The font designer certainly isn't checking your analytics if you aren't. I assume that's the reason for the honor system.
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dna_polymerase 5y ago

Also worth mentioning: https://mbtype.com/ https://mbtype.com/ by Matthew Butterick of practicaltypography.com fame offers a really permissive license for his fonts: https://mbtype.com/license/ https://mbtype.com/license/ .

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