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I'm not American either, but I'm intrigued about what could make you think that I was. Working together implies listening to the other side, even if you disagr

I'm not American either, but I'm intrigued about what could make you think that I was. Working together implies listening to the other side, even if you disagree and in the end choose to ignore it. And being reluctant to the vaccine is not "anti-science" : it is after all a relatively new technology (mRNA vaccines have been experimented for more or less 10 years), that is being made widely mandatory, and it would not be the first time a new medicine is discovered to have fatal side effects after some time (the Mediator case comes to mind : https://www.france24.com/en/france/20210329-mediator-trial-french-pharma-giant-faces-verdict-on-weight-loss-drug-deaths https://www.france24.com/en/france/20210329-mediator-trial-f...). To me, the cost-benefit analysis makes me overwhelmingly pro-vaccine, and I've debated as such multiple time, but what mainly disturbs me is that I find a lot of people from my side debating with ad-hominems (you're anti-science, stupid people, you're with us or against us, etc...) instead of trying to debate actual points and fears. There are people debating in bad faith on the other side as well, that's for sure, but to me the best is not to engage them at all, and most of all not to debate in bad faith yourself either, as it is not a much better place to be a parrot of government propaganda than it is to be a parrot of conspirationist propaganda.

Jedd 5y ago
> I'm not American either, but I'm intrigued about what could make you think that I was. Not parent, but the thing that made me think you were from the USA was this line: > From my circles, the vaccine/mask defiance is mostly about what is perceived (wrongly in my opinion, but still) as an overreach from the state, and as a risky bet that they might not want to take. ... and the rest of your post declined / forgot to mention where you were, or what kind of circles you were in. Typically that's a trait of people that live in the USA. > And being reluctant to the vaccine is not "anti-science" : It really is. Unless you're claiming statistics (epidemiology) is not a valid branch of science, in which case, okay, you really are more likely to die / suffer massive long term health nastiness from COVID19 than from any of the vaccines. You refer to 'sides' being a bad way to describe things, but seem to rely heavily on the us / them dichotomy to try to make your points.

Jedd 5y ago

> I'm not American either, but I'm intrigued about what could make you think that I was. Not parent, but the thing that made me think you were from the USA was this line: > From my circles, the vaccine/mask defiance is mostly about what is perceived (wrongly in my opinion, but still) as an overreach from the state, and as a risky bet that they might not want to take. ... and the rest of your post declined / forgot to mention where you were, or what kind of circles you were in. Typically that's a trait of people that live in the USA. > And being reluctant to the vaccine is not "anti-science" : It really is. Unless you're claiming statistics (epidemiology) is not a valid branch of science, in which case, okay, you really are more likely to die / suffer massive long term health nastiness from COVID19 than from any of the vaccines. You refer to 'sides' being a bad way to describe things, but seem to rely heavily on the us / them dichotomy to try to make your points.