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I'm not denying that. I've just been irritated by the OP saying sensationalist things which are simply untrue. Like being faster, more powerful, more precisely

I'm not denying that. I've just been irritated by the OP saying sensationalist things which are simply untrue. Like being faster, more powerful, more precisely controllable, big improvement in quality of life, and so on. Maybe it was for him, coming from where he was, but not as an absolute. Probably even the most simple thing like https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/tillreda-induktionskochfeld-tragbar-1-zone-weiss-10486794/ https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/tillreda-induktionskochfeld-tra... would be an improvement.

mikewarot 5y ago
Gas is MUCH faster, at least 4 times faster to get water up to boiling, if not more. You can directly see the flame, and know how much heat you're putting into something, almost instantly. The feedback cycle on electric cooking is a lot slower and more error prone. With an electric burner, I can't even get a large pot of water to a rapid boil, ever. I can get it up to temperature in about an hour. Electric cooking sucks compared to gas.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Are you sure we are speaking about the same things when saying 'electric'? I've been referring to these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking Have you ever worked with one, or seen one 'in action' while visiting someone/where? I'd guess not.
  - mikewarot 5y ago
    Mine was a bit smaller, plugged into a 15 amp circuit. I hated that wimpy thing, but it was all I had.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
      Are we really talking about the same thing? Did your's get hot, heating the pot or pan that way, OR did it stay cold, and heat only the pot/pan inductively via magical magnetics!1!!, which means a piece of paper would not even begin to burn if you'd put it between pot and 'cooking field' when for instance boiling water, making scrambled eggs, or something like that?
      - mikewarot 5y ago
        Inductive heat, not radiative. Fairly high frequency coil coupled to the pan, pot, etc.
        LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
        Then I can't understand why it would be slow. Because even the cheapest ones limited to 1500 Watt at 230 Volt heat water in about 2 minutes to boiling bubbles, 100°C. And then you can play with it, some allow steps of 10°C, some others only 20°C. Response is instant, trailing maybe 3 seconds max. Maybe you had the wrong pots? Or, as I have written initially...inferior electrics :-) edit: Or the thing was partially broken/defective.
        mikewarot 5y ago
        Maybe with a cup or two of water, not a whole pot.
        nautilius 5y ago
        1500W for 120s gives you 180kJ. Energy required to heat water by one degree 4.19 kJ/kg/K Then, heating by 80K (20C to 100C) requires 335.2 kJ/kg. Thus, at most, you were able to heat 180kJ/335.2kJ/kg = 0.53kg~0.53liters. A large tea mug. Hardly the 'large pot' that was mentioned above.
        LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
        Sorry, I've been unclear there. Mine are 2500W. Those I have direct and continuous experience with. But I've seen the 1500W and 2000w in action, too. I could also switch the display to Watts and use that as unit, but didn't do that, except for testing when it was new. Degrees C is the most practical for me. Anyways. They aren't that slow. That would be unacceptable for the people where I've seen them. Btw. for tea and coffee I use a dedicated boiler with about 500ml because my mug is 390ml :-) However, when new, I tested with exactly one Liter.

mikewarot 5y ago

Gas is MUCH faster, at least 4 times faster to get water up to boiling, if not more. You can directly see the flame, and know how much heat you're putting into something, almost instantly. The feedback cycle on electric cooking is a lot slower and more error prone. With an electric burner, I can't even get a large pot of water to a rapid boil, ever. I can get it up to temperature in about an hour. Electric cooking sucks compared to gas.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Are you sure we are speaking about the same things when saying 'electric'? I've been referring to these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking Have you ever worked with one, or seen one 'in action' while visiting someone/where? I'd guess not.
- mikewarot 5y ago
  Mine was a bit smaller, plugged into a 15 amp circuit. I hated that wimpy thing, but it was all I had.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    Are we really talking about the same thing? Did your's get hot, heating the pot or pan that way, OR did it stay cold, and heat only the pot/pan inductively via magical magnetics!1!!, which means a piece of paper would not even begin to burn if you'd put it between pot and 'cooking field' when for instance boiling water, making scrambled eggs, or something like that?
    - mikewarot 5y ago
      Inductive heat, not radiative. Fairly high frequency coil coupled to the pan, pot, etc.
      - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
        Then I can't understand why it would be slow. Because even the cheapest ones limited to 1500 Watt at 230 Volt heat water in about 2 minutes to boiling bubbles, 100°C. And then you can play with it, some allow steps of 10°C, some others only 20°C. Response is instant, trailing maybe 3 seconds max. Maybe you had the wrong pots? Or, as I have written initially...inferior electrics :-) edit: Or the thing was partially broken/defective.
        mikewarot 5y ago
        Maybe with a cup or two of water, not a whole pot.
        nautilius 5y ago
        1500W for 120s gives you 180kJ. Energy required to heat water by one degree 4.19 kJ/kg/K Then, heating by 80K (20C to 100C) requires 335.2 kJ/kg. Thus, at most, you were able to heat 180kJ/335.2kJ/kg = 0.53kg~0.53liters. A large tea mug. Hardly the 'large pot' that was mentioned above.
        LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
        Sorry, I've been unclear there. Mine are 2500W. Those I have direct and continuous experience with. But I've seen the 1500W and 2000w in action, too. I could also switch the display to Watts and use that as unit, but didn't do that, except for testing when it was new. Degrees C is the most practical for me. Anyways. They aren't that slow. That would be unacceptable for the people where I've seen them. Btw. for tea and coffee I use a dedicated boiler with about 500ml because my mug is 390ml :-) However, when new, I tested with exactly one Liter.