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A larger portion of them are from experience of hiring and being around people who smoke it. I would not employ someone who does because of those people. I have

by hughrr 5y ago

A larger portion of them are from experience of hiring and being around people who smoke it. I would not employ someone who does because of those people. I have horror stories a mile long. I know this is unpopular on internet news sites but I assure you that your social reputation isn’t that great if you smoke the stuff generally and that’s not going to change because of the propensity of people to be unreliable or dicks. The only thing that’s faulty is your perception of it.

eurasiantiger 5y ago
Hmm. This is a tough one. Do you think those people come off unreliable because they use cannabis, or would it be more likely that they, for example, suffer from a(n undiagnosed) medical condition such as PTSD or ADHD, which tend to make them a bit unreliable at times, but which cannabis treats so that the person is in fact more reliable when constantly high?
- hughrr 5y ago
  I knew some of them before they started using it. It’s almost entirely the cannabis. Including the dude now in psychiatric care after it kicked his schizophrenia hard. Everyone was promoted it as harmless. It’s not. I’m seeing lives wrecked. And yes I know alcohol is bad. But I see less long term damage from that as most people seem to grow out of alcoholism I have know. Cannabis not so much - it becomes the primary thing they live for and around. All conversation ends up on it.
  - eurasiantiger 5y ago
    I think your viewpoint might be biased — do you know any people who haven’t had their lives wrecked because of cannabis? Is cannabis legal where you live? Criminality causes stress and paranoia. Are you living in a heavily Christian environment? Asking because in heavily religious environments, schizophrenia with religious illusions often occurs as a result of internal conflict between sin-programming and self-perception. Is cannabis socially accepted or are people forced to choose between cannabis and other people? Social exclusion has in some studies been ranked more stressful than getting raped, so some sort of social PTSD can be expected to develop in these kind of environments to those who get excluded.
    - hughrr 5y ago
      I am in my late 40s. Most of the proponents are a lot younger. They haven’t seen the impact it has on them until they get older. That’s not bias. As for other points I’m an atheist with zero religious values at all. I have used it myself as well. And I’m in a country in a city where no one gives a crap. I’m about as unbiased as you can get. As for sins, I’m a pretty big fan of them as whole. The issue here is with the perception that it is harmless which it is definitely not.
      - wordsarelies 5y ago
        Do something that alters your baseline consciousness long enough and it becomes your baseline. Doing anything over a long period of time with regularity will change you. You have definitely met pot smokers who have, and do live perfectly normal lives because their baseline is better. You probably have no idea who they are.
        hughrr 5y ago
        My nose says otherwise.
        nick__m 5y ago
        You cannot smell pepole who use edible or vape cannabis.
        eurasiantiger 5y ago
        It is also very possible for cannabis to be an improvement to the baseline. There are many, many people who could not function in society and work for their living without cannabis, be it due to MS-related spasticity, PTSD-related hypervigilance, ADHD-related need for stimulation, autoimmune-related inflammation, difficult to treat eating disorders such as anorexia and ARFID, or just plain old chronic pain — and about about it not working for pain, it does work for some, why should they be denied?
      - denton-scratch 5y ago
  - denton-scratch 5y ago
    Pot doesn't agree with schizophrenia. We've known that for a long time. It can certainly trigger an episode. On the other hand, my experience is that many people with bipolar find it improves their mood. If you have psychiatric difficulties, then it's not a good idea to mess with drugs that are in any way psychedelic. If you have problems with hypertension, it's not a good idea to mess with caffeine or cocaine.
crazy_horse 5y ago
There are lots of people you don't know that smoke pot regularly and you can't tell. I promise you.
- tartoran 5y ago
  Yes there are but they probably aren't very high, they're most likely toking as in slightly buzzed if we were comparing it alcohol. I guess you'd notice drunk people and you'd notice very high pot smokers. But would you mind a coworker having a glass of wine for lunch? There are long term pot smokers whose intake is very large but whose tolerance has risen such that when they consume they're quite functional. They are usually easy to spot though...

by hughrr 5y ago

eurasiantiger 5y ago

Hmm. This is a tough one. Do you think those people come off unreliable because they use cannabis, or would it be more likely that they, for example, suffer from a(n undiagnosed) medical condition such as PTSD or ADHD, which tend to make them a bit unreliable at times, but which cannabis treats so that the person is in fact more reliable when constantly high?

hughrr 5y ago
I knew some of them before they started using it. It’s almost entirely the cannabis. Including the dude now in psychiatric care after it kicked his schizophrenia hard. Everyone was promoted it as harmless. It’s not. I’m seeing lives wrecked. And yes I know alcohol is bad. But I see less long term damage from that as most people seem to grow out of alcoholism I have know. Cannabis not so much - it becomes the primary thing they live for and around. All conversation ends up on it.
- eurasiantiger 5y ago
  I think your viewpoint might be biased — do you know any people who haven’t had their lives wrecked because of cannabis? Is cannabis legal where you live? Criminality causes stress and paranoia. Are you living in a heavily Christian environment? Asking because in heavily religious environments, schizophrenia with religious illusions often occurs as a result of internal conflict between sin-programming and self-perception. Is cannabis socially accepted or are people forced to choose between cannabis and other people? Social exclusion has in some studies been ranked more stressful than getting raped, so some sort of social PTSD can be expected to develop in these kind of environments to those who get excluded.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    I am in my late 40s. Most of the proponents are a lot younger. They haven’t seen the impact it has on them until they get older. That’s not bias. As for other points I’m an atheist with zero religious values at all. I have used it myself as well. And I’m in a country in a city where no one gives a crap. I’m about as unbiased as you can get. As for sins, I’m a pretty big fan of them as whole. The issue here is with the perception that it is harmless which it is definitely not.
    - wordsarelies 5y ago
      Do something that alters your baseline consciousness long enough and it becomes your baseline. Doing anything over a long period of time with regularity will change you. You have definitely met pot smokers who have, and do live perfectly normal lives because their baseline is better. You probably have no idea who they are.
      - hughrr 5y ago
        My nose says otherwise.
        nick__m 5y ago
        You cannot smell pepole who use edible or vape cannabis.
      - eurasiantiger 5y ago
        It is also very possible for cannabis to be an improvement to the baseline. There are many, many people who could not function in society and work for their living without cannabis, be it due to MS-related spasticity, PTSD-related hypervigilance, ADHD-related need for stimulation, autoimmune-related inflammation, difficult to treat eating disorders such as anorexia and ARFID, or just plain old chronic pain — and about about it not working for pain, it does work for some, why should they be denied?
    - denton-scratch 5y ago
- denton-scratch 5y ago
  Pot doesn't agree with schizophrenia. We've known that for a long time. It can certainly trigger an episode. On the other hand, my experience is that many people with bipolar find it improves their mood. If you have psychiatric difficulties, then it's not a good idea to mess with drugs that are in any way psychedelic. If you have problems with hypertension, it's not a good idea to mess with caffeine or cocaine.

crazy_horse 5y ago

There are lots of people you don't know that smoke pot regularly and you can't tell. I promise you.

tartoran 5y ago
Yes there are but they probably aren't very high, they're most likely toking as in slightly buzzed if we were comparing it alcohol. I guess you'd notice drunk people and you'd notice very high pot smokers. But would you mind a coworker having a glass of wine for lunch? There are long term pot smokers whose intake is very large but whose tolerance has risen such that when they consume they're quite functional. They are usually easy to spot though...