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Companies want developers to buy into editors like religion. All of them (editors) do the same, but spending money on IntelliJ is the hardest flex because it sa

by tdhz77 5y ago

Companies want developers to buy into editors like religion. All of them (editors) do the same, but spending money on IntelliJ is the hardest flex because it says I’m an enterprise developer look at me.

tclancy 5y ago
Really? I swapped to PyCharm when I was a solo dev because it had superior code insight compared to the other editors. What is enterprise about it beyond it costing money?
- bennyp101 5y ago
  Yea that’s a weird flex, I get some companies have “use these tools” but that’s largely for support and discounts
  - tclancy 5y ago
    Wait, wha? I worked for myself and it was busy time. I'd spent almost as much on other IDEs as PyCharm. Not a flex. When I flex, the Hulkamaniacs go wild and everyone takes their vitamins and says their prayers. WTF is a flex about buying software?
    - bennyp101 5y ago
      Sorry, I meant the comment about companies wanting to buy into enterprise stuff was weird - I wasn’t clear
bennyp101 5y ago
I bought JetBrains myself because I was told about some nice refactoring tools, and they were right. I don’t ask my work to pay, because I use it personally as well, and I look at my brother as a woodworker and he’s honed his tools to what suits him. I do the same.
- dmingod666 5y ago
  Same here, they have good IDEs and I think it's worth the price if you're working on it for such a long time each day.
Darmody 5y ago
I've been trying to make VSCode work like PHPStorm. I've tried a huge combination of plugins and there's no way to do it. It doesn't even come close. It's powerful but it's definitely not the same. I would go back to NetBeans before using VSCode. There's no religion behind it, it's just that there are tools that suit my needs better than others.
- bennyp101 5y ago
  I paid for Inteliphense, but it’s not a shade on using phpstorm - I spent so long on non paid software I missed out on a lot of cool stuff
addicted 5y ago
You can get access to all Jetbrains tools for $650/yr for the first year, with the price reducing in subsequent years. Considering nearly every S/W dev globally can make that in a couple of days, I'm not sure how much of a flex it is considering it would be your primary work tool. And I say this as someone whose never used a Jetbrains tool and use Vim for nearly everything (except when I'm on Windows where I use a mix of Notepad++ and VSCode).
- bennyp101 5y ago
  Yea, it’s only recently I’ve been buying licences for things that make my life (as a dev) better Sometimes you can afford it, and sometimes you can’t. I think we forget when you could (and still can) do dev with a text editor. I 100% get what you say, but that’s a lot of money potentially - which is where I think vscode /vim etc shine in that it’s free and can do the same kinda thing
- audience_mem 5y ago
  > Considering nearly every S/W dev globally can make that in a couple of days This is only possibly true if your definition of "global" is "1st world".

by tdhz77 5y ago

tclancy 5y ago

Really? I swapped to PyCharm when I was a solo dev because it had superior code insight compared to the other editors. What is enterprise about it beyond it costing money?

bennyp101 5y ago
Yea that’s a weird flex, I get some companies have “use these tools” but that’s largely for support and discounts
- tclancy 5y ago
  Wait, wha? I worked for myself and it was busy time. I'd spent almost as much on other IDEs as PyCharm. Not a flex. When I flex, the Hulkamaniacs go wild and everyone takes their vitamins and says their prayers. WTF is a flex about buying software?
  - bennyp101 5y ago
    Sorry, I meant the comment about companies wanting to buy into enterprise stuff was weird - I wasn’t clear

bennyp101 5y ago

I bought JetBrains myself because I was told about some nice refactoring tools, and they were right. I don’t ask my work to pay, because I use it personally as well, and I look at my brother as a woodworker and he’s honed his tools to what suits him. I do the same.

dmingod666 5y ago
Same here, they have good IDEs and I think it's worth the price if you're working on it for such a long time each day.

Darmody 5y ago

I've been trying to make VSCode work like PHPStorm. I've tried a huge combination of plugins and there's no way to do it. It doesn't even come close. It's powerful but it's definitely not the same. I would go back to NetBeans before using VSCode. There's no religion behind it, it's just that there are tools that suit my needs better than others.

bennyp101 5y ago
I paid for Inteliphense, but it’s not a shade on using phpstorm - I spent so long on non paid software I missed out on a lot of cool stuff

addicted 5y ago

You can get access to all Jetbrains tools for $650/yr for the first year, with the price reducing in subsequent years. Considering nearly every S/W dev globally can make that in a couple of days, I'm not sure how much of a flex it is considering it would be your primary work tool. And I say this as someone whose never used a Jetbrains tool and use Vim for nearly everything (except when I'm on Windows where I use a mix of Notepad++ and VSCode).

bennyp101 5y ago
Yea, it’s only recently I’ve been buying licences for things that make my life (as a dev) better Sometimes you can afford it, and sometimes you can’t. I think we forget when you could (and still can) do dev with a text editor. I 100% get what you say, but that’s a lot of money potentially - which is where I think vscode /vim etc shine in that it’s free and can do the same kinda thing
audience_mem 5y ago
> Considering nearly every S/W dev globally can make that in a couple of days This is only possibly true if your definition of "global" is "1st world".