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It’s tricky (obviously) but the code itself is certainly protected. If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. If they simply studied it

It’s tricky (obviously) but the code itself is certainly protected. If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. If they simply studied it’s workings and coded it fresh that’s pretty clearly not infringing. But if take-two can point at chunks of code that’s exactly the same they have a bit of a leg. Mainly though they know they won’t fight back so why not just sue? They have nothing to lose.

Hamuko 5y ago
>If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. This is from the CODING STYLE document: "Don't just copy paste code from IDA, make it look nice" https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.md https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.m...
- rasz 5y ago
  amateurs, should of been: "Don't just copy paste code from IDA, pull it thru GitHub Copilot first"
carl_dr 5y ago
> If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. From the filed complaint, Take-Two quote one of the developers : > GTA 3 and Vice City were originally written in [programming language] C++ . . . The compiled executables that are shipped are in machine code. So the general task is to go from machine code back to C++. . . . To go back to C++ is by no means a simple 1:1 mapping, but over the last 10 or so years decompilers have appeared that help with this process. . . . So what we typically do is work with the output of the decompiler and massage it back into readable C++ And although this probably has no relevance from a legal standpoint, but sounds pretty bad in the context of the complaint, from right at the bottom of https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.md https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.m... : > Generally, try to make the code look as if R* could have written it
- londons_explore 5y ago
  So in most jurisdictions, what they did was clearly copyright infringement. It's a shame a simple take-down request wasn't sent (and complied with) first...
  - carl_dr 5y ago
    That’s on the developers. From TFA : > The lawsuit says that after the company filed a DMCA takedown notice to remove the projects from Github, the defendants filed a bad faith counter notice to have the content reinstated, thus triggering this copyright infringement lawsuit.

Hamuko 5y ago

>If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. This is from the CODING STYLE document: "Don't just copy paste code from IDA, make it look nice" https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.md https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.m...

rasz 5y ago
amateurs, should of been: "Don't just copy paste code from IDA, pull it thru GitHub Copilot first"

carl_dr 5y ago

> If they decompiled the code and just cleaned it up it’s very grey. From the filed complaint, Take-Two quote one of the developers : > GTA 3 and Vice City were originally written in [programming language] C++ . . . The compiled executables that are shipped are in machine code. So the general task is to go from machine code back to C++. . . . To go back to C++ is by no means a simple 1:1 mapping, but over the last 10 or so years decompilers have appeared that help with this process. . . . So what we typically do is work with the output of the decompiler and massage it back into readable C++ And although this probably has no relevance from a legal standpoint, but sounds pretty bad in the context of the complaint, from right at the bottom of https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.md https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/blob/master/CODING_STYLE.m... : > Generally, try to make the code look as if R* could have written it

londons_explore 5y ago
So in most jurisdictions, what they did was clearly copyright infringement. It's a shame a simple take-down request wasn't sent (and complied with) first...
- carl_dr 5y ago
  That’s on the developers. From TFA : > The lawsuit says that after the company filed a DMCA takedown notice to remove the projects from Github, the defendants filed a bad faith counter notice to have the content reinstated, thus triggering this copyright infringement lawsuit.