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I am pretty much sure engineers from late 70s said the same for young engineers. Same for the engineers from 80s for those in 90s. And the trend continues. I th

I am pretty much sure engineers from late 70s said the same for young engineers. Same for the engineers from 80s for those in 90s. And the trend continues. I think servers becomes the new processors and the abstraction gets higher and higher. It is the nature of evolution whether you like it or not.

throwaway47292 5y ago
that is of course true but now we are at a day where "Amazon to remove more content that violates rules from cloud service" is on the front of hackernews together with "Visual Studio Code now available as Web based editor for GitHub repos" evolution or not, i will revolt, if i think the path its taking is harmful. (not that i can do much besides teaching my kid to know how computers work haha)
- debarshri 5y ago
  True, I agree with you and you have all the rights to revolt. But let's say you have an opinion, instead of revolting I would say you should push it on the world and let the world decision whether they agree with you or not. What Amazon and Google is doing is, they are enforcing their opinion by luring you into their eco system. That's one way to make the world compliant to your opinions. Just revolting in your own universe doesn't get the job of changing the course of evolution.
  - throwaway47292 5y ago
    i used revolt to be more dramatic :) i meant i will take action against the evolution, and one of the things i can do is spend as much time as i can in educating my daughter.
ausudhz 5y ago
Doesn't change anything. It's still a problem till you've to support something that is crucial and only few people know about it. Otherwise we'll end up recalling the retired programmers that know cobol because nobody else can fix it anymore.
pjmlp 5y ago
While true, it also depends pretty much on the quality of what the university was teaching during those 3 to 5 years of engineering degree.
rapnie 5y ago
> I think servers becomes the new processors Aren't we talking about "SaaS services outside of your control" here?

throwaway47292 5y ago

that is of course true but now we are at a day where "Amazon to remove more content that violates rules from cloud service" is on the front of hackernews together with "Visual Studio Code now available as Web based editor for GitHub repos" evolution or not, i will revolt, if i think the path its taking is harmful. (not that i can do much besides teaching my kid to know how computers work haha)

debarshri 5y ago
True, I agree with you and you have all the rights to revolt. But let's say you have an opinion, instead of revolting I would say you should push it on the world and let the world decision whether they agree with you or not. What Amazon and Google is doing is, they are enforcing their opinion by luring you into their eco system. That's one way to make the world compliant to your opinions. Just revolting in your own universe doesn't get the job of changing the course of evolution.
- throwaway47292 5y ago
  i used revolt to be more dramatic :) i meant i will take action against the evolution, and one of the things i can do is spend as much time as i can in educating my daughter.

ausudhz 5y ago

Doesn't change anything. It's still a problem till you've to support something that is crucial and only few people know about it. Otherwise we'll end up recalling the retired programmers that know cobol because nobody else can fix it anymore.

pjmlp 5y ago

While true, it also depends pretty much on the quality of what the university was teaching during those 3 to 5 years of engineering degree.

rapnie 5y ago

> I think servers becomes the new processors Aren't we talking about "SaaS services outside of your control" here?