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> If you read the literature, it is argued that for this to work it is absolutely forbidden for project managers to join these meetings. This is, however, a uto
by namelosw 5y ago
> If you read the literature, it is argued that for this to work it is absolutely forbidden for project managers to join these meetings. This is, however, a utopian view.
It's nothing utopian, we don't have project managers join stand-ups.
> Given that our team are distributed across several time zones, it is logistically infeasible to hold a daily synchronous meeting.
I understand that stand-ups are terrible for global distributed remote teams because people need to adjust their time.
But there's no need to ditch it as a whole. For onsite teams, it can be good: A team that only uses WIPs, no deadlines. The stand-ups are just a very short and informal meeting to let people:
1. Synchronize what other people are doing, in order to avoid conflicts and reworks.
2: See if anybody needs help.
And that's it. We also do some funny gestures that do not hold, or do heavy-lifting when speaking just to make it quicker and more informal.
It's just when the culture is bad, the stand-ups would be one of the whips that bad managers could leverage. If there are no stand-ups, they could still reach for other tools.
To practice stand-ups properly the key idea is to have a no accusing or shaming team culture. Strive for it even if you have a little bit of power to practice; Protest it if you don't; Leave if you can do nothing about it.
- JohnFen 5y ago> See if anybody needs help. This reason has always struck me as weird. Surely (as the article points out), people are asking for help as soon as they need it, not waiting until the next standup.
- namelosw 5y agoWell, you're right if there are explicit blockers. In practice, it's more of in-betweens like "I can figure it out slowly" or "I didn't realize Jerry could help me just like that". When people encounter obvious blockers or they have no clue they will ask for help, but not so much for those "in-between". Another scenario that often happens to us is one task is being pretty much depended on, and if there's an "in-between" like I just said, it's likely to make the team run out of task for a while. People on the task may not be paying enough attention to each other's progress, leaving them in blind spots compared to the team lead. Stand-ups are great for spotting those problems and tackle them early.