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Sorry, yeah, I see that now. I retract that statement, but will leave it in place for completeness. Anyways… Whether a thing is legal or not isn’t a particula

Sorry, yeah, I see that now. I retract that statement, but will leave it in place for completeness. Anyways… Whether a thing is legal or not isn’t a particularly strong argument for or against it. Hell yes people should be prepared to break laws in protest, and prepared to wear the consequences if they’re caught. It’s normal, it’s right, it’s just. We should be prepared to fight for what we believe is right. Absolutely.

rvz 5y ago
> Absolutely Oh dear. So that means anyone can storm the capitol and call it 'a protest' because they were 'prepared to fight for what they believe is right.' Just like how many damaged federal buildings and other businesses in the process and call it 'a peaceful protest' because they too were also prepared to 'fight for what they believe is right.' as well. Even terrorists can claim this, just like how the awful events of Sept 2001 happened. Perhaps they were 'prepared to fight for what they believe was right.' as well. How is all of the above normal? How are any of these examples protests? Guess what? Not only all of the above are certainly not protests, they are all illegal and you're defending all of the above cases. I don't see how the events that happened in 9/11 can be called 'a protest' or even remotely 'just'.
- TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
  You’re wrong, I only support things I agree with, of course. But yeah, if you’re going to fight you better expect the repercussions.
  - rvz 5y ago
    > You’re wrong, I only support things I agree with, of course. You DID just say Absolutely didn't you? Thus, no limitation or bounds was set for that argument. > But yeah, if you’re going to fight you better expect the repercussions. Well not only I don't agree with script-kiddies into trying to take someone's website down, I also don't agree with distributing such scripts and actively encouraging others to participate in a wide-scale effort into bringing it down. All because they don't like what's on there? Maybe it is fine to bring down a site I don't agree with then? To also add on what you said, there is no freedom of consequences when it comes to this so-called 'hacktivism'. These TikTokkers will be caught if the website owners decide to involve the authorities, on top of encouraging others who don't know any better to participate in this activity just for the kicks and now they probably made themselves all traceable to the website owners anyway. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28400386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28400386

rvz 5y ago

> Absolutely Oh dear. So that means anyone can storm the capitol and call it 'a protest' because they were 'prepared to fight for what they believe is right.' Just like how many damaged federal buildings and other businesses in the process and call it 'a peaceful protest' because they too were also prepared to 'fight for what they believe is right.' as well. Even terrorists can claim this, just like how the awful events of Sept 2001 happened. Perhaps they were 'prepared to fight for what they believe was right.' as well. How is all of the above normal? How are any of these examples protests? Guess what? Not only all of the above are certainly not protests, they are all illegal and you're defending all of the above cases. I don't see how the events that happened in 9/11 can be called 'a protest' or even remotely 'just'.

TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
You’re wrong, I only support things I agree with, of course. But yeah, if you’re going to fight you better expect the repercussions.
- rvz 5y ago
  > You’re wrong, I only support things I agree with, of course. You DID just say Absolutely didn't you? Thus, no limitation or bounds was set for that argument. > But yeah, if you’re going to fight you better expect the repercussions. Well not only I don't agree with script-kiddies into trying to take someone's website down, I also don't agree with distributing such scripts and actively encouraging others to participate in a wide-scale effort into bringing it down. All because they don't like what's on there? Maybe it is fine to bring down a site I don't agree with then? To also add on what you said, there is no freedom of consequences when it comes to this so-called 'hacktivism'. These TikTokkers will be caught if the website owners decide to involve the authorities, on top of encouraging others who don't know any better to participate in this activity just for the kicks and now they probably made themselves all traceable to the website owners anyway. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28400386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28400386