> If you read the literature, it is argued that for this to work it is absolutely forbidden for project managers to join these meetings. This is, however, a uto

> If you read the literature, it is argued that for this to work it is absolutely forbidden for project managers to join these meetings. This is, however, a utopian view. No, it's not. It works for our team. We don't have the PO in our daily. If he likes, he can join as a guest, but he is not part of it. We, as engineers, use the daily to discuss the work for the next 24 hours - if there is anything to discuss. It works pretty well for us.