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or social anxiety, or they haven't learned that skill or they have been stuck on an issue with no progress or they've learned management makes their life harder
by dtx1 5y ago
or social anxiety, or they haven't learned that skill or they have been stuck on an issue with no progress or they've learned management makes their life harder because they don't accept the level of progress or ... Have some empathy bro
edit downvotes for empathy :) HN at it´s best!
- random_kris 5y agoLike you can explain what is making you stuck ?
- ergocoder 5y agoNo you can't. It is really too hard to do. Have some empathy bro.
- nsonha 5y agoJust say you are stuck and you are unable to explain, someone then can help you with understanding what's going on. Part of being a professional is to admit it when you don know, so people can help, or not giving you hard work/close deadlines. It's really simple, whatever it is, just say it.
- random_kris 5y agoExactly this
- random_kris 5y agoWe are in this to make money for business not in a self help place. There is place for empathy in workspace, but it must be 2 way street. You also should show some empathy and understand that I need to see some progress in my team or I feel bad
- Jensson 5y agoLets say you did daily stand-up's in school. Every day every kid has to go up and loudly express in front of the whole class what score they got on yesterdays test, what other achievements they did and what goals they have for today. Do you think it would help the kids grow and thrive at school? Grades doesn't depend on what you say there are all, so it isn't like they should feel any anxiety about it, right? It feels like people who don't understand why so many developers hate daily stand-ups doesn't understand social interactions at all.
- random_kris 5y agowell school is a solo effort most of the time, while working in a team is most of the time team effort... Only problem I see is if someone did nothing yesterday, then I imagine having anxiety telling to the team that.. Luckily I work in a team where saying "I was totally unproductive yesterday, today I have plans on working on so and so and so" is totally acceptable. In case you didn't have a unproductive day there is always something to tell on what you were working. If you were stuck on soemthing and debugging it for 6 hours and have nothing to show for it then tell that you spent 6 hours debugging, someone might even offer you help :D
- nsonha 5y agofantastic we should treat eveyone as school kids and run companies like schools do. I mean people even criticize schools for their ability to educate which is the one thing they do, and you are telling money making organization should learn from them? Learn what? Why does working have to be exactly like social interactions? Btw what definition are you using? Social interaction in a party? Do pilots in the cockpit wilfully not communicate statuses because they hate it and just want to be chill? When will you graduate from school? I wanna send some flower.
- anaganisk 5y agoIf he is a solo developer sure, if he is part of a team. Social skill is important, without communication we might end up in paradoxes.
- nsonha 5y agoWhen you interview for the job please state that your social anxiety, or the tendency of using that as an excuse, can get in the way of team communication.
- pizza234 5y agoThe following two: > or social anxiety, or they haven't learned that skill or they have been stuck on an issue with no progress > or they've learned management makes their life harder are radically different problems; the former two belong to the developer, the latter to the manager. Actually, standup is the best opportunity to communicate that there is a problem (a dev stuck with an issue) and find out how that can be better approached/solved.
- nsonha 5y agoyou go to work taking on tasks that others depend on and for days don't communicate progress, and you talk about empathy. To yourself only I guess. Downvoted for lack of EQ and empathy.